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Old 04-13-2015, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by RI830 View Post
What is yours source for the TVL rate not being for flight departments.
I have info stating it is for anykne in the travel industry ie. Flight crews who carry passengers.
My source is directly Marriott. Your source is wrong, as usual.
If you would bother reading the rate rules yourself, instead of relying on rumors, you could easily see it. Shouldn't be hard even for you. The fact that you abused the rate for a while, does not mean you were doing it legitimately.
When I first heard of TVL years ago, I had the common sense to verify what it was before booking, and save myself embarrassing explanations to the hotel, and to why there was no hotel at the last minute. That could be crucial in long international flights, and it is part of the logistic planning that every professional should take into consideration. TVL applies to NATC (travel agents) and Commercial Airlines. It has been that for many years. (I would not be surprised if the abuse of it was what make the change in points policy happened.) But I guess booking hotels is above your paygrade.
One must wonder what else you oversee base on rumors.

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Old 04-13-2015, 12:53 PM
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P.S.
I suggest using your AAA card. Sometimes cheaper, sometimes not.
Sometimes requires a deposit, but still gets you point and stay.
But what do you really care? You are not paying for it anyways. For that, the more you spend, the more points you get. Isn't that one of the perks of the corporate pilot?
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Old 04-13-2015, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by NoSidNoStar View Post
My source is directly Marriott. Your source is wrong, as usual.
If you would bother reading the rate rules yourself, instead of relying on rumors, you could easily see it. Shouldn't be hard even for you. The fact that you abused the rate for a while, does not mean you were doing it legitimately.
When I first heard of TVL years ago, I had the common sense to verify what it was before booking, and save myself embarrassing explanations to the hotel, and to why there was no hotel at the last minute. That could be crucial in long international flights, and it is part of the logistic planning that every professional should take into consideration. TVL applies to NATC (travel agents) and Commercial Airlines. It has been that for many years. (I would not be surprised if the abuse of it was what make the change in points policy happened.) But I guess booking hotels is above your paygrade.
One must wonder what else you oversee base on rumors.
As usual, you go straight to your "I'm right and your wrong" accusations. Define a commercial airline.
I too have checked with Marriott and other sources.
As in past threads, you show your "bright" side.

ps....Commercial aviation/airlines is the part of civil aviation (both general aviation and scheduled airline services) that involves operating aircraft for hire to transport passengers or cargo.

Sorry NSNS, your job with JetBlue doesn't make you better than anyone else.
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Old 04-13-2015, 08:37 PM
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As usual, you go straight to your "I'm right and your wrong" accusations. Define a commercial airline.
I too have checked with Marriott and other sources.
As in past threads, you show your "bright" side.

ps....Commercial aviation/airlines is the part of civil aviation (both general aviation and scheduled airline services) that involves operating aircraft for hire to transport passengers or cargo.

Sorry NSNS, your job with JetBlue doesn't make you better than anyone else.

As usual, you jumped to conclusions (I.e. My current employment) without any relation to facts. Nice try, your buddy last time was saying he had a pretty good source telling him I was with another airline. You guys are funny, as your "sources", but more of that later.

You asked the source, I gave it to you, but you can't accept to be wrong, and take it the way you always do. As usual. If you can't bare to be wrong, you should spend some time and effort checking the facts, before opening your mouth.
But no, you just stick to what you say, what you self proclaimed as being the truth, regardless, and don't even bother to check what others said. Hmmm not so bright. That is a very dangerous trait for a pilot. The fact that you did it before, it does not mean you were right.

As usual you don't bring facts, but opinions. Well in your opinion the TVL rate applies to general aviation, and as usual, your opinion is wrong. It is ridiculous to see you can't accept a simple fact. And it is very easy to verify it, try to book something using that code, and click on rate rules. Not so hard, even for you.

"Commercial Airlines" is what is stated on the rate rules for TVL in the Marriott website. Commercial "aviation", as you try to spin it, is never stated there in the rate rules for TVL. Additionally, the TVL rules specify Commercial Airlines carrying passengers (sorry cargo guys), and that makes sense, if you understand the reason for this rate, which is promoting a particular property.
But really??? Come on, this is so disappointing even from you.
The fact you even mention the cargo, proves you did not bother to read the rate rules, and your attempt to spin the definition, which you haven't even read, is typically pathetic of yours.
Furthermore, corporate is not commercial aviation anyway, it is regarded in common language as private transportation, but that does not even matter for this topic and useless to discuss, unless you are one of those pilots that spends hours trying to explain to the average Joe that you are not the "private" pilot of some rich guy, because you need a commercial "license" bla bla bla... Revolting!

Do you even have a Marriott account number? Or you company does not let you have one? Or you still did not bother to check? Just trying to defend your position without even spending the time to go read for yourself? So unprofessional.

Do I really need to define Commercial Airline for you? Let me explain you one thing, you do not work for one, neither you are a travel agent, and using a discount rate that is not for you just show your ignorance, lack of integrity, and poor planning abilities.

Before you even try to answer, or whoever else for you, check the rate rules for TVL, and if they are too hard for you to understand, which would not surprise me at this point, call Marriott and ask those rules to be explained to you. And if you still believe the TVL rate applies to you... oh boy, you have no cure.

So you "checked" with Marriott and "other sources"?
Exactly how did you check with Marriott? Hmmm fishy
Have you or have you not read the TVL rate rules yourself?
And what "other sources" you used to verify what Marriott rules are?
Rumors? Heard it through the grape vine? Very unprofessional.
I hope you show more dedication to flight planning than to logistics.
Oh, sorry, I guess that is above your paygrade too, well I hope you show more dedication cleaning the lav and loading the bags.
Keep trying hard, one day they will let you file a flight plan.

I am sincerely sicken by the fact you pretend to be a professional.

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Old 04-14-2015, 03:47 AM
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Haha! You make me laugh!
I'm tired of debating/discussing with you and your antics.
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Haha! You make me laugh!
I'm tired of debating/discussing with you and your antics.
So you did not check the TVL rates rule, you are either too lazy to do it, or simply can't admit your mistakes. When caught in your lies, you dismiss the subject with the an attempt to be above it.
Either way that tells a lot about the kind of pilot/person you are.
There is no debating with you, since once again you don't bring facts to the table, but wrongfully formed opinions. With you is more like an exercise of futility.

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Old 04-14-2015, 05:58 PM
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NSNS,

You keep referring to Marriott rate rules, but I've looked throughout their website, the Marriott Rewards forums, and general Googling and found nothing detailing those rules. Care to post a link, if it's so easy so all of us can be enlightened?

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Old 04-14-2015, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer View Post
NSNS,

You keep referring to Marriott rate rules, but I've looked throughout their website, the Marriott Rewards forums, and general Googling and found nothing detailing those rules. Care to post a link, if it's so easy so all of us can be enlightened?

GF
You must have an hard time reading. But at least you bother to verify. Good for you, whatever your motive.
I have already described how to read the rate rules, and I think I was clear enough. Evidently not for everyone, so let me try again step by step.
When you book a stay, put TVL on the corporate code, before finalizing the booking, after clicking continue, you will see ABOUT THIS RATE right next to the room icon on the left. Click on that and... THA THA Rate Rules window pops up...
Wasn't too hard was it.
Honestly I am surprised a seasoned guy like you never bother to read the fine prints, assuming you used such rates. That is part of planning, a very important aspect of the corporate pilot job.
Although I have no doubt if you have read it, you would have done the right thing and avoid it. I give you that. Your Majesty sound like a man of integrity, even with all the other possible defects.
So go ahead, let me know if you find it.
I hope you will not try to debate what Commercial Airlines mean, like the fool above here. And nobody around here claims to be a travel agent for the purpose of getting cheap rooms, I hope.
An ID is required, just in case someone would be wondering.
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Old 04-14-2015, 07:59 PM
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Being snarky doesn't help your message. I don't book rooms, I have people for that, we call them dispatchers.

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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer View Post
Being snarky doesn't help your message. I don't book rooms, I have people for that, we call them dispatchers.

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What are you saying now? That looking into rooms rate is below you? What was the previous post about searching the Marriott rates then?
First you say you looked in their web site, now that I give you a step by step guide, all the sudden you won't bother? Have you followed the easy instructions, since you asked for the info?
Hmmmm, now I have to doubt even thou integrity, Your Majesty.
May be you just wanted to find a way to prove me wrong, and now suddenly it is more convenient to change subject.
Stay classy.
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