True. But it’s a slow process, the best we can do, is use consensus to make judgements with other inputs, communicate clearly our decisions and plans, then adjust, self reflect and take credit for mistakes. That’s how leadership works.

 

Right. And as part of that consider all opinions potentially valid (like the ones that say masking/lockdowns may be worse rather than better for eventual health outcomes) and work to disprove, rather than try to shut them down and shout them down because they fly against the conventional (convenient) wisdom of what passes for scientific review on the TODAY show. Oh wait.

 

I did not write this, but I agree:Is it ‘trust the science’ or ‘trust the scientists’? The two are not the same.

Here are a few things that–at one point–virtually all scientists agreed on:

• The earth is the center of the universe
  
• The world is flat.
  
• The treatment for epilepsy required the ritualistic sacrifice of a goat
  

While we know these statements to be absurd today, there was a time when questioning these certainties would have you labeled everything from a hack to a heretic. Despite this, a small number of smart people looked at the facts, exercised critical thinking, tested the hypothesis and ultimately rewrote what was once known to be true.

Science never fails. Scientists fail constantly. And that’s the idea of it all. That’s how it’s supposed to work while on the journey to find the unfailing truths of science. As such, real science demands skepticism and should be critical of conformity to an idea without comprehensive evidence. But, ‘ya know, 2020 and all…

Today, anyone questioning certain public health officials or government leaders is to be ridiculed, criticized, and even censored because they are dangerous to the environment. If you’re concerned the data tells a different story than the approved message, your dangerous ideological misgivings and disinformation could influence others to take actions that kill people. There is a system of subject matter experts that have the right plan and questioning by the citizenry, press or even other scientists cannot be accepted because any of those people are not the right scientists or intelligentsia to address the matters at hand.

The deaths don’t align with scary case narrative? “You’re wrong, just wait two weeks.” It’s been two weeks? “You’re forgetting about Long COVID.” Long COVID symptoms are just as common with the Flu or other respiratory diseases? “No it’s worse this time., here’s an emotional story of the 3 people that… You have to trust that we’re the experts and you are not.”

Any scientist not open to alternative scientific views, is not a scientist at all and the efforts to dismiss reasonable, rational, and data-driven skepticism at all cost is not science. Concerns of logic and reason are often NOT met genuine scientific insight and data but with emotional stories and anecdotal responses. It’s a plea to trust not the science, but a select group of scientists that must be above reproach even when their data is far from certain or incomplete. Compliance with their directives are all that matters and to ensure compliance in the face of remarkably incomplete scientific rationale, they use fear.

 

Well said. Put another way, science is the act of using the scientific method to reproduce verifiable facts. Science relies on proof.
Trusting the experts because they told you so is called politics. It relies on titles, emotional pandering, and connections.

 

Sounds like all those scientists or "the scientific community" said that global warming is real. do the research or shut up

 

... And this is why we are where we are.


You're basically saying you don't trust scientists and think you can interpret the data in their highly specific skillset better than they can. Also, let's not forget the entire peer review process ensures experiments and studies are properly fact checked by unbiased experts in the field. This is like a flight simmer insisting the NTSB is wrong about the Maxx crash.

 

You don't know any scientists, do you

 

Nope, we're good...

 

Hmmm.......

 

It’s all good!!! We are told that sloth Biden will fix it!
Look....he’s issuing his first decree as Supreme Leader