Lockdown Part 2
10-29-2020 | 08:05 AM
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I'm not saying that Germany has the best system in the world but at least it doesn't have 27.5 million uninsured.
Also, it's not like people don't get treatment. It's just that some hospitals need to send patients to other hospitals. Bad enough, but not yet catastrophic. The partial and temporary lock-down is to ensure it doesn't become catastrophic. The problem is: If it works, and I think it will, some people will say: "See the hospital system was never overwhelmed... It's not that bad".
I guess we will all know more in a few weeks.
Also, it's not like people don't get treatment. It's just that some hospitals need to send patients to other hospitals. Bad enough, but not yet catastrophic. The partial and temporary lock-down is to ensure it doesn't become catastrophic. The problem is: If it works, and I think it will, some people will say: "See the hospital system was never overwhelmed... It's not that bad".
I guess we will all know more in a few weeks.
10-29-2020 | 08:30 AM
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10-29-2020 | 09:23 AM
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Sweden had one COVID death on October 28th. 1.
I’m not certain where the empirical justification and evidence comes from for lockdowns, mask wearing and other widespread suppression initiatives.
The case can certainly be made islands like Iceland and New Zealand can effectively lock down and suppress the virus, but outside of East Asia the COVID suppression measures are probably a total failure, perhaps leading to more death than if just the vulnerable were given guidance on how to protect themselves.
Humanity really botched this one up.
I’m not certain where the empirical justification and evidence comes from for lockdowns, mask wearing and other widespread suppression initiatives.
The case can certainly be made islands like Iceland and New Zealand can effectively lock down and suppress the virus, but outside of East Asia the COVID suppression measures are probably a total failure, perhaps leading to more death than if just the vulnerable were given guidance on how to protect themselves.
Humanity really botched this one up.
10-29-2020 | 10:18 AM
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Sweden had one COVID death on October 28th. 1.
I’m not certain where the empirical justification and evidence comes from for lockdowns, mask wearing and other widespread suppression initiatives.
The case can certainly be made islands like Iceland and New Zealand can effectively lock down and suppress the virus, but outside of East Asia the COVID suppression measures are probably a total failure, perhaps leading to more death than if just the vulnerable were given guidance on how to protect themselves.
Humanity really botched this one up.
I’m not certain where the empirical justification and evidence comes from for lockdowns, mask wearing and other widespread suppression initiatives.
The case can certainly be made islands like Iceland and New Zealand can effectively lock down and suppress the virus, but outside of East Asia the COVID suppression measures are probably a total failure, perhaps leading to more death than if just the vulnerable were given guidance on how to protect themselves.
Humanity really botched this one up.
10-29-2020 | 10:29 AM
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10-29-2020 | 10:33 AM
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10-29-2020 | 01:53 PM
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okay, should we have done the Swedish plan, the Chinese plan, the German plan, the Korean plan? And, how would Americans complied with any of those plans? Heck, NY, CT, NJ and PA governors knew about the elderly vulnerabilities and still sent them back to LTC.
10-29-2020 | 02:22 PM
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Those governors should pay dearly for their terrible and callous treatment of their elderly but they will just blame big orange and be backed by their supporters in the media (brother in one case).
The Swedish plan was clearly pretty decent but fell under severe scrutiny because it didn't follow with "the science".
10-29-2020 | 02:29 PM
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The Swedish plan would have been the smartest and easiest plan to follow... live your life while simultaneously isolating/protecting the elderly and immune compromised while beefing up your medical infrastructure. The rest of the world is repeating the failure of their idiotic closure plans and will die a slow economic death while not protecting their elderly/weak.
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