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Old 01-28-2019, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF View Post
I don’t speak Frenchy....what is an A-322?
The next airbus variant, i.e. A321XLR, neo ++, or whatever the name winds up as.
https://airwaysmag.com/manufacturer/...gs-797-launch/
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Old 01-28-2019, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by J Fish View Post
I have heard one of the big issues when anylizing replacing the 757 with the 321 isn't range but cargo capacity. Apparently this is due to brake energy limits on the 321 due to the single truck landing gear.
Does that go away if we order some with the dual truck landing gear?
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Old 01-28-2019, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by J Fish View Post
I have heard one of the big issues when anylizing replacing the 757 with the 321 isn't range but cargo capacity. Apparently this is due to brake energy limits on the 321 due to the single truck landing gear.
Landing distance and landing weight isn't an issue on the 321, so I kind of doubt this has any credence.

You'll fill up the tanks, fill up the pax, carry a bunch of cargo, plus a couple jumpseaters and still not be overweight, and then landing weight is always no issue.
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Old 01-28-2019, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp View Post
Landing distance and landing weight isn't an issue on the 321, so I kind of doubt this has any credence.

You'll fill up the tanks, fill up the pax, carry a bunch of cargo, plus a couple jumpseaters and still not be overweight, and then landing weight is always no issue.
Not saying he's right, but braking also affects take off performance (being able to reject at v1 and stop by the end of the runway).
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Old 01-28-2019, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp View Post
Landing distance and landing weight isn't an issue on the 321, so I kind of doubt this has any credence.

You'll fill up the tanks, fill up the pax, carry a bunch of cargo, plus a couple jumpseaters and still not be overweight, and then landing weight is always no issue.
The concern is being able to reject a takeoff. The aircraft would also exceed the ramp allowable wheel weights at many airports. They are already taxi restricted at LGA with the current model.
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Old 01-28-2019, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
The concern is being able to reject a takeoff. The aircraft would also exceed the ramp allowable wheel weights at many airports. They are already taxi restricted at LGA with the current model.
Where did you see that taxi restriction in LGA for our current 321ceos?
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Old 01-28-2019, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid View Post
Where did you see that taxi restriction in LGA for our current 321ceos?
https://www.aopa.org/ustprocs/201901...rt_diagram.pdf

Take a look just south of what are the D gates on the chart.

I haven't been current on NACO charts in years but the D-170 should be 170,000lbs for dual tandem gear.
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Old 01-28-2019, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by contrails View Post
https://www.aopa.org/ustprocs/201901...rt_diagram.pdf

Take a look just south of what are the D gates on the chart.

I haven't been current on NACO charts in years but the D-170 should be 170,000lbs for dual tandem gear.
I get that, but where is that in our stuff? I’ve flown the 321 full out of lga, we use it for MSP. A 170k limit on a 197k aircraft is a near 30k hit, seems like it’d be somewhere. I’ll check a flight plan in the morning and see.

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I ride AA jumpseat all the time in LGA. They are restricted to 10 knot taxi speeds and 5 in corners due to damage occurring with the 321.
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Old 01-28-2019, 09:16 PM
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I ride AA jumpseat all the time in LGA. They are restricted to 10 knot taxi speeds and 5 in corners due to damage occurring with the 321.
We aren't. Try again. AA has self imposed limits like NW used to do.
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