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Old 06-30-2017, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Planetrain View Post
June 27, 2017 from flightglobal.com

"Delta Air Lines has pulled its first Boeing MD-90 from service, as it prepares to begin a three-year drawdown of its MD-88 fleet.

The aircraft (MSN 53382) was withdrawn from service on 23 June, Flight Fleets Analyzer shows and a spokesman for the Atlanta-based carrier confirms. The aircraft had 58,772 cycles and 31,998 hours at the end of 2016.

The MD-90 was one of the first two delivered to launch customer Delta on 24 March 1995, the database shows."
Wait- What?!? So it AVERAGED a 1/2 hour flight leg? Am I reading that right?
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Old 06-30-2017, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg View Post
Even more of a reason to get the 330/764 banded with the 777/350.
If it has 2 aisles it should pay 777/350 rates. Like American and United.

C2019 is the perfect time to make this happen along with 5:15 vacation, training and min day.
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Old 06-30-2017, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by FMGEC View Post
Wait- What?!? So it AVERAGED a 1/2 hour flight leg? Am I reading that right?
Probably didn't include ground time.
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Old 06-30-2017, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by gzsg View Post
If it has 2 aisles it should pay 777/350 rates. Like American and United.

C2019 is the perfect time to make this happen along with 5:15 vacation, training and min day.
Yep...just give us international VB's, more large RJ's and a massive pro-KA imbalanced JV, a company Dr. note for all sick calls, one more hour to the ALV and an 8th short call.

See how easy that was.
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Old 06-30-2017, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
They bought the aircraft because the JV they hoped to set up with China was planned to end up with 15 to 16 flights a day on Delta metal to China modeled after the AMS hub. That JV has so far not worked out so the forcus has shifted to Korea. The A330-900 is 50 million cheaper than the A350. A350 orders are being cutback to only 15. The A330-900 will be the big fleet.
Sounds pretty ******* clumsy. This isn't Africa we're trying to work - it's only the #1 market in the world and we're 1) giving up our nook at Tokyo and 2) now onto another attempt to work with someone in Korean.
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Old 07-01-2017, 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by n9810f View Post
Sounds pretty ******* clumsy. This isn't Africa we're trying to work - it's only the #1 market in the world and we're 1) giving up our nook at Tokyo and 2) now onto another attempt to work with someone in Korean.
We did not give up our nook in Tokyo, it is dead and buried by better aircraft and a very crafty move by the Japanese to open up Haneda to international flights. China has not worked out because our potential partner wants all the Pacific flying with us doing zero.
That was the same thing KAL wanted a few years back that led to a pullback in that relationship. Fortunently for us they bought a shipping company that is dragging them down and they came back to the table hat in hand.
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Old 07-01-2017, 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by qball View Post
The cockpit will be referred to as the Thunder Dome
Two man enter, one man leaves!
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
We did not give up our nook in Tokyo, it is dead and buried by better aircraft and a very crafty move by the Japanese to open up Haneda to international flights. China has not worked out because our potential partner wants all the Pacific flying with us doing zero.
That was the same thing KAL wanted a few years back that led to a pullback in that relationship. Fortunently for us they bought a shipping company that is dragging them down and they came back to the table hat in hand.
Take the time to see who fills the routes we are abandoning in Narita.

Or do you think no airline will?

Clueless.
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Old 07-01-2017, 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by gzsg View Post
Take the time to see who fills the routes we are abandoning in Narita.

Or do you think no airline will?

Clueless.
If they are profitable why would we drop them? RA was anything but a fool when it came to route planning and as he stated many times each route needed to pull its weight. Next time you are in ATL for training walk over to the Marketing area and talk with the folks running Asia. I suspect you might find it enlighting and you might actually be surprised at how competent they actually are.
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
If they are profitable why would we drop them? RA was anything but a fool when it came to route planning and as he stated many times each route needed to pull its weight. Next time you are in ATL for training walk over to the Marketing area and talk with the folks running Asia. I suspect you might find it enlighting and you might actually be surprised at how competent they actually are.
Gzsg walking into Delta Marketing to speak his knowledge of airline economics is similar to what we'll see soon when McGregor walks into the ring with Mayweather to show his boxing skills.
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