It's a bit heavy. Shrinks always have CASM issues. The 787-8 is more efficient in this size class.

It's not a very efficient airframe for 257 seats, I think they have sold like two. Nevertheless I think the 330-900 may end up the 767ER replacement for Delta.

I am not arguing about any of what you say above. As a matter of fact, if you reread my last sentence, you should have the answer to your question.

What I’m so tired of hearing is the FALSE claim that the 757, 762, and 763 were NOT brought up to the 7ER rate. Like you claimed. If you were here, you know that is patently a false claim and it detracts from any further argument you make.

If you were around for that, then you were around when 738 and 777 payrates were negotiated. If I remember correctly, we have United to thank for the rates negotiated at the time. I will agree we, as a union, have not done a good job of negotiating the 7er pay rate (among others like the M88).

Denny

We are not talking about an opinion here. We are talking about fact. So what you say above has no bearing on anything being discussed.

Edit: I should say the item being discussed is the very specific question as to whether the payrates for the 757, 763, & 763 were brought up to the 7ER rates. If you weren’t here, I get how you might not understand how it went down. Don’t blame the playa, blame the game.

Denny

Any reason LAX is not currently a 320 base?

Networking says it doesn't need to be.

Next question?

Not to get too particular, but you actually were talking about an opinion, and whether one was or wasn't "qualified to have one."

No biggie...I don't have an opinion, so worry not.

Almost. Company wanted 777 really bad, and union said $300 per hour. Company laughed, a year later we signed 777 at 300 an hour. Then UAL took that number and applied it to their 1999 contract all the way down to their 737. We in turn for contract 2k asked for UAL +1% and we got it. Contract 2000 UAL +1% was with Malone.

No, it’s not an opinion. What don’t you get? It is a fact that the payrates for the 757, 762, and 763 were raised to the payrate of the 7ER. It really is as simple as that.

Do you think when the payrates were harmonized into one that the 7ER rate was lowered? Rhetorical question. It wasn’t. Tell me, where is there a chance for an opinion here? I don’t see it.

Denny

Edit: Whoops, I did say “opinion” in my previous post. What I really meant was if you weren’t here and living thru it, you probably don’t know what happened (and probably didn’t care) in as great a depth as someone who was an active pilot on the list then.

Thanks for the reminder.

Denny