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Originally Posted by Xray678 (Post 2483464)

I don’t count the ER as a wide body......it has narrow body pay.

Other way around. But keep drinking out of the "glass is half empty" glass.

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Originally Posted by Bluto (Post 2483618)

ERs are getting pretty long in the tooth. Their retirement can’t be too far behind the MDs.

There may be some cycled in and out of the desert but the planned phaseout is from late 2020 through 2029.

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Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 2483633)

Other way around. But keep drinking out of the "glass is half emptyk

Show us the pay rates then tell me I’m wrong....

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Originally Posted by GyroNole (Post 2483619)

And I think I heard we brought, or are in the process of bringing 31 x 752s out of the desert

That was from an LCA after one of their last pow wows

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Anything is possible but I think most of the 757's in storage would require expensive overhauls to remain in service.

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Originally Posted by GyroNole (Post 2483619)

And I think I heard we brought, or are in the process of bringing 31 x 752s out of the desert

That was from an LCA after one of their last pow wows

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Randomly quoting LCAs is verboten to some around here. Be careful of the wolves. They’ll getcha.

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Originally Posted by saturn (Post 2483624)

Second oldest fleet after the MD-88 is the A320. There's still 40-45 built between '90-'93 out there. I'm sure they'll soon be reincarnated as cans of water on Southwest.

True. There are a few 320s that have been retired but there upgrading interiors on 62 of the 65 jets so maybe 3 more 320s will retire. 319s the other 320s are young enough to still be attractive to a Hollywood producer or DC politician.

There's also about 20 ERs with that same age and 35 752s as well.

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Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2483554)

Sacrebleu!!! :eek:

My head hurts.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8o12WV6SkX...rief-model.png

Or the advanced course consisting of only 5 stages. Here we have a pupil going through all stages in record times:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYN4CllWuiM

Scoop :D

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Originally Posted by Xray678 (Post 2483650)

Show us the pay rates then tell me I’m wrong....

Were you a pilot on the Delta seniority list when payrates for the 757, 762, 763, and 7er were made the same rate? If you were, you’re characterization is flat out wrong. If not, then you are not qualified to even have an opinion on the subject. The rates were indeed brought up to the ER rate. I am so tired of people who were not here claiming otherwise.

Now if your argument is that the ER rate has not kept pace with other widebody rates, I might agree with you.

Denny

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Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 2483877)

Yes I was here when that happened. I thought it was a mistake to match the rates. Two thoughts, the ER rate was too low to begin with and that has never been addressed. Second, getting the rate to where it should be will be hard since the category flies far more 757 time than ER time. The ER rate is only $10 more than the 739, but $36 less than the 764. Do you really think it’s an appropriate wide body rate? IMHO it’s an appropriate rate for the 757, but the ER should pay $15-20 more.

Take this lesson when contemplating pay banding.

Because that is essentially what we did.