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notEnuf 12-14-2017 10:49 AM

200 if the options are exercised. This will be by far the largest fleet at Delta. Get comfortable with the idea that Europe is only an 8 hour narrow-body ride away. And I thought the 757 was bad on transatlantic flights.

Well now you know why wide-body block hours are set at the floor and not a ratio.

Bring on the rest facility grievance now, so we can get this over with.

Maybe we can get a lower lobe hidey-hole. Hope you French speakers aren't claustrophobic.

Planetrain 12-14-2017 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2483356)
200 if the options are exercised. This will be by far the largest fleet at Delta. Get comfortable with the idea that Europe is only an 8 hour narrow-body ride away. And I thought the 757 was bad on transatlantic flights.

Well now you know why wide-body block hours are set at the floor and not a ratio.

Bring on the rest facility grievance now, so we can get this over with.

Maybe we can get a lower lobe hidey-hole. Hope you French speakers aren't claustrophobic.

A321 hours dont count in block hour floor. These would be extra hours if flown across the pond.

notEnuf 12-14-2017 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by Planetrain (Post 2483376)
A321 hours dont count in block hour floor. These would be extra hours if flown across the pond.

Exactly. The floor is lower than current flying, with no mechanism to bring it up.

Planetrain 12-14-2017 11:56 AM

Other than all the other sections of scope....

My point is our widebody hours can't be robbed by A321 transatlantic hours. Do you understand the threat that would have existed without the protections of the block hour floor?

notEnuf 12-14-2017 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by Planetrain (Post 2483384)
Other than all the other sections of scope....

My point is our widebody hours can't be robbed by A321 transatlantic hours. Do you understand the threat that would have existed without the protections of the block hour floor?

Do you understand the Macro trends across the Atlantic that will reduce those hours to the floor. Hopefully not below, like the AF/KLM EASKs that required a rewrite.

We are a narrow-body airline. Our partners will do the heavy lifting.

200 321s. 25, no 15 350s. 0 744s, Aging 777s.

qball 12-14-2017 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 2483080)
booo.... dumb.

We're doing fine and the airline is growing in spades. What we do need to do is fight to keep that going in our favor.

I'd be willing to be that we'll see the 787 at the least amongst our ranks before 2025

They should be 10 years old by then....with that good used car smell.

Karnak 12-14-2017 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2483404)
We are a narrow-body airline. Our partners will do the heavy lifting.

200 321s. 25, no 15 350s. 0 744s, Aging 777s.

Why did you choose to ignore the A330 & 767 fleets?

saturn 12-14-2017 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2483404)
Do you understand the Macro trends across the Atlantic that will reduce those hours to the floor. Hopefully not below, like the AF/KLM EASKs that required a rewrite.

We are a narrow-body airline. Our partners will do the heavy lifting.

200 321s. 25, no 15 350s. 0 744s, Aging 777s.

In service today we have 150 WBs. We have 42 330s, and we're supposed to get a total of 67. 330s+350s=92. 21 764s, 18 777s. 189 Widebodies including 763ER (58) which might be out in the next half a decade, which would leave us at 131.
I see at some point down the road needing another WB order. Thats just to stand pat with where we are today.

Xray678 12-14-2017 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by saturn (Post 2483460)
In service today we have 150 WBs. We have 42 330s, and we're supposed to get a total of 67. 330s+350s=92. 21 764s, 18 777s. 189 Widebodies including 763ER (58) which might be out in the next half a decade, which would leave us at 131.
I see at some point down the road needing another WB order. Thats just to stand pat with where we are today.

I don’t count the ER as a wide body......it has narrow body pay.

forgot to bid 12-14-2017 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2483356)
200 if the options are exercised. This will be by far the largest fleet at Delta.

We have 28 321s flying right now.
94 more to go.
Then possibly 200 a321Neos.

322 A321s.
65 A320s
57 A319s

=
Yuge fleet of 444 A320 types


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