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Old 12-14-2017 | 10:49 AM
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200 if the options are exercised. This will be by far the largest fleet at Delta. Get comfortable with the idea that Europe is only an 8 hour narrow-body ride away. And I thought the 757 was bad on transatlantic flights.

Well now you know why wide-body block hours are set at the floor and not a ratio.

Bring on the rest facility grievance now, so we can get this over with.

Maybe we can get a lower lobe hidey-hole. Hope you French speakers aren't claustrophobic.
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Old 12-14-2017 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
200 if the options are exercised. This will be by far the largest fleet at Delta. Get comfortable with the idea that Europe is only an 8 hour narrow-body ride away. And I thought the 757 was bad on transatlantic flights.

Well now you know why wide-body block hours are set at the floor and not a ratio.

Bring on the rest facility grievance now, so we can get this over with.

Maybe we can get a lower lobe hidey-hole. Hope you French speakers aren't claustrophobic.
A321 hours dont count in block hour floor. These would be extra hours if flown across the pond.
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Old 12-14-2017 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Planetrain
A321 hours dont count in block hour floor. These would be extra hours if flown across the pond.
Exactly. The floor is lower than current flying, with no mechanism to bring it up.
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Old 12-14-2017 | 11:56 AM
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Other than all the other sections of scope....

My point is our widebody hours can't be robbed by A321 transatlantic hours. Do you understand the threat that would have existed without the protections of the block hour floor?
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Old 12-14-2017 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Planetrain
Other than all the other sections of scope....

My point is our widebody hours can't be robbed by A321 transatlantic hours. Do you understand the threat that would have existed without the protections of the block hour floor?
Do you understand the Macro trends across the Atlantic that will reduce those hours to the floor. Hopefully not below, like the AF/KLM EASKs that required a rewrite.

We are a narrow-body airline. Our partners will do the heavy lifting.

200 321s. 25, no 15 350s. 0 744s, Aging 777s.
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Old 12-14-2017 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
booo.... dumb.

We're doing fine and the airline is growing in spades. What we do need to do is fight to keep that going in our favor.

I'd be willing to be that we'll see the 787 at the least amongst our ranks before 2025
They should be 10 years old by then....with that good used car smell.
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Old 12-14-2017 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
We are a narrow-body airline. Our partners will do the heavy lifting.

200 321s. 25, no 15 350s. 0 744s, Aging 777s.
Why did you choose to ignore the A330 & 767 fleets?
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Old 12-14-2017 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Do you understand the Macro trends across the Atlantic that will reduce those hours to the floor. Hopefully not below, like the AF/KLM EASKs that required a rewrite.

We are a narrow-body airline. Our partners will do the heavy lifting.

200 321s. 25, no 15 350s. 0 744s, Aging 777s.
In service today we have 150 WBs. We have 42 330s, and we're supposed to get a total of 67. 330s+350s=92. 21 764s, 18 777s. 189 Widebodies including 763ER (58) which might be out in the next half a decade, which would leave us at 131.
I see at some point down the road needing another WB order. Thats just to stand pat with where we are today.
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Old 12-14-2017 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by saturn
In service today we have 150 WBs. We have 42 330s, and we're supposed to get a total of 67. 330s+350s=92. 21 764s, 18 777s. 189 Widebodies including 763ER (58) which might be out in the next half a decade, which would leave us at 131.
I see at some point down the road needing another WB order. Thats just to stand pat with where we are today.
I don’t count the ER as a wide body......it has narrow body pay.
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Old 12-14-2017 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
200 if the options are exercised. This will be by far the largest fleet at Delta.
We have 28 321s flying right now.
94 more to go.
Then possibly 200 a321Neos.

322 A321s.
65 A320s
57 A319s

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Yuge fleet of 444 A320 types
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