Where will the displaced 88 folks go?
04-11-2018, 08:44 AM
#61
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Originally Posted by Bait
I think he means the lock on the old airplane is artificially extended. I was hired under the one year seat lock. I bid off that airplane on the first AE for which I was eligible--the MOAB. just passed my 2-year anniversary and I am still not qualified on the new category. My one year seat lock was effectively turned into two by the one year conversion window in the MOAB.
At least this year you now know that something good (for you) is coming.....
04-11-2018, 08:49 AM
#62
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A few sort of missed my point.
Let’s say for the sake of argument all AE bids become once a year ‘MOAB’ type bids with a 365 day conversion window (assuming displacements). An AE could be announced 23 months into your 24 month seat lock rendering you ineligible to bid. A year later another bid comes out and you get your desired AE choice, but don’t go to training for almost an entire year. This example, which is improbably unlucky timing, shows that your seat lock, while technically still only two years long, can lock you in your current category for almost four years.
Fortunately annual MOAB bids aren’t policy or even common, but they could conceivably be a major QOL hit for us all moving forward. Something to think about in our next contract negotiations?
Let’s say for the sake of argument all AE bids become once a year ‘MOAB’ type bids with a 365 day conversion window (assuming displacements). An AE could be announced 23 months into your 24 month seat lock rendering you ineligible to bid. A year later another bid comes out and you get your desired AE choice, but don’t go to training for almost an entire year. This example, which is improbably unlucky timing, shows that your seat lock, while technically still only two years long, can lock you in your current category for almost four years.
Fortunately annual MOAB bids aren’t policy or even common, but they could conceivably be a major QOL hit for us all moving forward. Something to think about in our next contract negotiations?
04-11-2018, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Buford
A few sort of missed my point.
Let’s say for the sake of argument all AE bids become once a year ‘MOAB’ type bids with a 365 day conversion window (assuming displacements). An AE could be announced 23 months into your 24 month seat lock rendering you ineligible to bid. A year later another bid comes out and you get your desired AE choice, but don’t go to training for almost an entire year. This example, which is improbably unlucky timing, shows that your seat lock, while technically still only two years long, can lock you in your current category for almost four years.
Fortunately annual MOAB bids aren’t policy or even common, but they could conceivably be a major QOL hit for us all moving forward. Something to think about in our next contract negotiations?
Let’s say for the sake of argument all AE bids become once a year ‘MOAB’ type bids with a 365 day conversion window (assuming displacements). An AE could be announced 23 months into your 24 month seat lock rendering you ineligible to bid. A year later another bid comes out and you get your desired AE choice, but don’t go to training for almost an entire year. This example, which is improbably unlucky timing, shows that your seat lock, while technically still only two years long, can lock you in your current category for almost four years.
Fortunately annual MOAB bids aren’t policy or even common, but they could conceivably be a major QOL hit for us all moving forward. Something to think about in our next contract negotiations?
04-11-2018, 10:11 AM
#64
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
According to the FB page a guy wrote to a CR manager and asked about narrowbody CA positions. The response was, "We're all set through the summer. Look forward to more in the Fall/Winter."
FWIW.
Galactic Yikes.
FWIW.
Galactic Yikes.
Having said that, here's hoping we don't see anymore MOABs.
04-11-2018, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Abouttime2fish
Now hearing 50-75 Atl M88A displacements, nothing in MSP until after summer. 
04-11-2018, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by SideSticker
Hopefully, the fall MSP88A displacements coincide with the brand new MSP717 base, and a few new MSP 320A's for good measure.
04-11-2018, 01:42 PM
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Considering we have over 325, Airbus 321's on order plus 75 something C series jets, I'm sure there will be plenty of places to go. I think the Jan fleet numbers showed 109 M88's in service, so the real question is how is crew resources going to manage the displacement. There should be plenty of aircraft to avoid things such as secondary displacements. Would be nice if crew resources laid out more of a 1, 2 and 3 year plan rather than us guessing all the time.
04-11-2018, 03:43 PM
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[QUOTE Would be nice if crew resources laid out more of a 1, 2 and 3 year plan rather than us guessing all the time.[/QUOTE]
I bet they’d like to have that plan as well. Unfortunately constant aircraft and schedule changes keep them chasing a moving target.
I bet they’d like to have that plan as well. Unfortunately constant aircraft and schedule changes keep them chasing a moving target.
04-11-2018, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Abouttime2fish
Now hearing 50-75 Atl M88A displacements, nothing in MSP until after summer.
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