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m3113n1a1 07-23-2019 09:50 PM


Originally Posted by tomgoodman (Post 2858093)
Maybe he does want 11,000, but not the same 11,000 he has now. :p

Pretty sure they want 0...in an ideal world!!

AlphaBeta 07-24-2019 03:58 AM

The only thing I heard is that RG believes the airline can run with 500-1000 less pilots. Which can be done if we min run the staffing levels.

Tadertot 07-24-2019 04:07 AM

Someone needs to clue in RG to the fact that this isn’t Endeavor.

SimWorld 07-24-2019 07:18 AM

We need to have much stronger reroute pay and protection if this is RG plan for the future. Make it so cost prohibitive to reroute us that our schedules are not built with 3 and 4 hour sits. Or as Tracking sees it, as Airport Ready Reserve.

m3113n1a1 07-24-2019 07:44 AM

I just hope we don't become like American. Almost every time I commute on them, the pilots are on some crazy reroute. Apparently they treat their lineholders like reserves constantly and there's no recourse.

gloopy 07-24-2019 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by SimWorld (Post 2858248)
We need to have much stronger reroute pay and protection if this is RG plan for the future. Make it so cost prohibitive to reroute us that our schedules are not built with 3 and 4 hour sits. Or as Tracking sees it, as Airport Ready Reserve.

MUCH stronger RR provisions. Automatic premium pay for any RR for any reason. The fake example of a 4 leg day where they RR your middle turn from ATL-CHS to ATL-SAV and the rest of the trip is the same is cute but that's not what RR's are.

The RR abuse is hopefully forcing this issue to be a front burner must fix for C19.

BobZ 07-24-2019 09:19 AM

Ya seems the pwa sections that are gona need beefing up may not have been apparent on the survey.

Xray678 07-24-2019 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by GuardPolice (Post 2857911)
Agreed. The only thing I’ve heard close to this is they want to get us down to the same pilot/airframe ratio as AA which, allegedly, we have a ways to go to get to.


GP


Pilot/airframe ratio is meaningless. Pilot/block hour ratio is what matters.

TED74 07-24-2019 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 2858267)
I just hope we don't become like American. Almost every time I commute on them, the pilots are on some crazy reroute. Apparently they treat their lineholders like reserves constantly and there's no recourse.

And why would they? There are numerous reasons we command a premium over our peers. Doing thing like they do things would be stupid. Let’s hope “they” know that...and I suspect they do.

3GRNDWN 07-26-2019 10:04 AM

Just experienced all of the “joys” this thread is talking about. It’s a long story, but let’s just say me and another pilot will never extend our duty day ever again. This optimizing everyone’s schedule practice is going to bring our operation to a slow crawl if they continue this bs.


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