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tunes 08-09-2019 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by StartngOvr (Post 2867773)
I emailed an issue to DALPA scheduling over a month ago. Haven’t heard a peep.


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A month is about the current turnaround time.


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GliderCFI 08-10-2019 05:50 AM

So on a reserve 4 day GS where only day 1 is over an X day. Day 2 was originally a 30 hour layover. Day 1 they rerouted us to delay 2 flights instead of 1, as they do, to add a previously non-existing duty period on day 2, which also was the original first day of reserve. Do I get anything for the reroute or am I limited to the above guarantee of day 1? I know on reserve generally the answer is no, but wasn't sure if that's different since the last leg of the X day portion of the GS is where the RR started.

TED74 08-10-2019 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by GliderCFI (Post 2868001)
So on a reserve 4 day GS where only day 1 is over an X day. Day 2 was originally a 30 hour layover. Day 1 they rerouted us to delay 2 flights instead of 1, as they do, to add a previously non-existing duty period on day 2, which also was the original first day of reserve. Do I get anything for the reroute or am I limited to the above guarantee of day 1? I know on reserve generally the answer is no, but wasn't sure if that's different since the last leg of the X day portion of the GS is where the RR started.

Send it to ALPA scheduling. GS or not, you could be due RR pay.

tunes 08-10-2019 06:11 AM


Originally Posted by GliderCFI (Post 2868001)
So on a reserve 4 day GS where only day 1 is over an X day. Day 2 was originally a 30 hour layover. Day 1 they rerouted us to delay 2 flights instead of 1, as they do, to add a previously non-existing duty period on day 2, which also was the original first day of reserve. Do I get anything for the reroute or am I limited to the above guarantee of day 1? I know on reserve generally the answer is no, but wasn't sure if that's different since the last leg of the X day portion of the GS is where the RR started.

look at PWA 23.L.4.note, see if that applies. You can PM me if you'd like.

GliderCFI 08-10-2019 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by tunes (Post 2868014)
look at PWA 23.L.4.note, see if that applies. You can PM me if you'd like.

Don't think that applies. Was delayed coming into msp due to the previous CA not knowing how to write things up, basically and then not answering his phone. We could have made it on time to our 30 hour layover but the sodomizer apparently chose to send us to Fargo instead, double deadhead today.

Omar 111 08-10-2019 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by GliderCFI (Post 2868142)
Don't think that applies. Was delayed coming into msp due to the previous CA not knowing how to write things up, basically and then not answering his phone. We could have made it on time to our 30 hour layover but the sodomizer apparently chose to send us to Fargo instead, double deadhead today.

Sad, but seeing this more and more. Either not checking the writeup and assuming FO did it correctly, or not knowing how to do it themselves. I think it is time for some accountability on this issue.

gloopy 08-10-2019 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by Omar 111 (Post 2868177)
Sad, but seeing this more and more. Either not checking the writeup and assuming FO did it correctly, or not knowing how to do it themselves. I think it is time for some accountability on this issue.

The FO doing it as a tradition/courtesy is a relic that needs to go the way of the one ear on one ear off shouting nonsense. Captain's ship, Captain does the book FO reviews.

ChecklistMonkey 08-10-2019 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 2868200)
The FO doing it as a tradition/courtesy is a relic that needs to go the way of the one ear on one ear off shouting nonsense. Captain's ship, Captain does the book FO reviews.

I don't even have a problem with FO doing it and CA reviews. Just as long as someone reviews.

Omar 111 08-10-2019 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 2868200)
The FO doing it as a tradition/courtesy is a relic that needs to go the way of the one ear on one ear off shouting nonsense. Captain's ship, Captain does the book FO reviews.

Vol.1 specifies the interior inspection is the FO’s checklist, which includes logbook signoff, verifying MDM limititations, ETOPS signoff, etc. While all crew members are required to review the logbook, the administrative duties associated with the logbook fall squarely on the FO. (At least on the 737).

Bluto 08-10-2019 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 2868200)
The FO doing it as a tradition/courtesy is a relic that needs to go the way of the one ear on one ear off shouting nonsense. Captain's ship, Captain does the book FO reviews.

Disagree. Why don't we all act like we're responsible for the flight, checking everything that could be a gotcha for everyone, so we can back each other up and be ready to upgrade when the time comes? I did my best to check everything I could as an FO, and I appreciate when my FO's do the same. It's not about ego. There's only one person in command, but we all have a stake.


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