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Originally Posted by 3 green
(Post 2860420)
Delta mgmt has done a great job ensuring this with all the hoops you must jump thru after refusing to extend.
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Originally Posted by 3 green
(Post 2859780)
Will never happen. The vast majority of pilots extend their duty day, and are glad to do it. I do not see that changing. I've personally seen on a few occasions where the pilot I was flying with extended and I did not. Both times the other pilot said it's too much paperwork and talking on the phone. Crew tracking, duty pilot, chief pilot calls, and FCR must be submitted. The intimidation factor is too high for most.
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Originally Posted by FL370esq
(Post 2860385)
Well....I'm glad to learn that their drummer did not spontaneously combust. [emoji16]
What I don’t get is why they don’t just make the amps louder, and have 10 be the top. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
You are leaving stuff out. You call crew tracking who then tranfers you to a duty pilot where you have to repeat yourself. Then you have to fill out fatigue form where you pit everything you said in writing. Then chief pilot follows up the next business day where you have to repeat yourself all over again. In my experience, the chief pilot threatens to not pay protect you as intimidation. In my case there was nothing to pay protect me for which is why I took it as intimidation. Most guys here like their job and extending is just easier as it is what our company expects you to do.
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
(Post 2860516)
You are leaving stuff out. You call crew tracking who then tranfers you to a duty pilot where you have to repeat yourself. Then you have to fill out fatigue form where you pit everything you said in writing. Then chief pilot follows up the next business day where you have to repeat yourself all over again. In my experience, the chief pilot threatens to not pay protect you as intimidation. In my case there was nothing to pay protect me for which is why I took it as intimidation. Most guys here like their job and extending is just easier as it is what our company expects you to do.
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I have refused every extension I've ever had to at Delta. 2 total and both international in the last 7 months. I've been fully paid and no questions asked. I have young kids and refuse to take on any extra liability.
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
(Post 2860516)
You are leaving stuff out. You call crew tracking who then tranfers you to a duty pilot where you have to repeat yourself. Then you have to fill out fatigue form where you pit everything you said in writing. Then chief pilot follows up the next business day where you have to repeat yourself all over again. In my experience, the chief pilot threatens to not pay protect you as intimidation. In my case there was nothing to pay protect me for which is why I took it as intimidation. Most guys here like their job and extending is just easier as it is what our company expects you to do.
I have never had a call from a CP for refusing a extension and even pulling the plug prior to needing a extension. I have had to deal with the duty pilot calling but that’s easy. |
Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
(Post 2860516)
You are leaving stuff out. You call crew tracking who then tranfers you to a duty pilot where you have to repeat yourself. Then you have to fill out fatigue form where you pit everything you said in writing. Then chief pilot follows up the next business day where you have to repeat yourself all over again. In my experience, the chief pilot threatens to not pay protect you as intimidation. In my case there was nothing to pay protect me for which is why I took it as intimidation. Most guys here like their job and extending is just easier as it is what our company expects you to do.
I just call straight to the duty pilot they do the rest. One call that’s all. If guys are extending because they are intimidated by that then that’s on them not the company. |
Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
(Post 2860516)
You are leaving stuff out. You call crew tracking who then tranfers you to a duty pilot where you have to repeat yourself. Then you have to fill out fatigue form where you pit everything you said in writing. Then chief pilot follows up the next business day where you have to repeat yourself all over again. In my experience, the chief pilot threatens to not pay protect you as intimidation. In my case there was nothing to pay protect me for which is why I took it as intimidation. Most guys here like their job and extending is just easier as it is what our company expects you to do.
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Originally Posted by lavService
(Post 2860548)
I have refused every extension I've ever had to at Delta. 2 total and both international in the last 7 months. I've been fully paid and no questions asked. I have young kids and refuse to take on any extra liability.
For any future Delta pilot wannabe's reading this thread......if asked a "what if" question analogous to this scenario.....I would highly suggest you do not follow this advice/train of thought. I suspect that no one would be hired if their reason is, "I've got too much to lose, so I will never extend" JMHO |
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