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08-11-2019, 04:00 AM
#41
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Originally Posted by beernutt
Reminding the FAs to please do the hot weather PA helps. I include it in my painfully long and awkward brief to them, and also write it on the briefing guide at the end of the release and give it to them. I also monitor the PA on the taxi in to be sure they do it, and if not I do it myself after setting the brake. It really helps keep the plane cool.
Standing by for the ‘why should we be expected to do someone else’s job’ crowd to chime in. I’m more about the results than the way it’s achieved.
Standing by for the ‘why should we be expected to do someone else’s job’ crowd to chime in. I’m more about the results than the way it’s achieved.
08-11-2019, 05:52 AM
#42
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Delta’s policy is to do exactly what you say. Passenger comfort comes ahead of fuel savings.
Originally Posted by gopher3
Because said pilot cares more about his profit sharing check and saving the company money then he does the passengers fanning themselves with Sky magazine. He/she has made the conscious decision to let pax sweat it out a bit for their own selfish reasons. And i commute so i see it regularly.
08-11-2019, 06:51 AM
#43
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Originally Posted by Han Solo
1. Agree, DHing is terrible domestically and needs contractual language codifying the procedure.
2. The procedure should be guaranteed C+ or better aisle/window or we don't board. At pilot discretion, we can accept another seat for leg block above rotation or reserve guarantee.
3. That guaranteed seat needs to be automatic, no 10-step process to book my seat. I show up and with zero input and I board my DH in my preferred seat
4. I'm sure there are a few who are APU misers but my guess is most captains; at least out of self preservation, are trying to keep the planes cool. My last trip we had warm planes on every leg and there wasn't a thing I could do about it. Ran the APU non-stop, sometimes had air and sometimes didn't, but the cabins heated up to the low 80s regardless of my efforts to keep them cool. Our external cooling equipment is garbage. One station I spoke with the station manager about his cooling hose with a nice 3" hole right next to the air attachment point. Other stations get the infamous sausage hose.
Good suggestion above to remind FAs to ask the PAX to pull down the window shades, I'll add that to my brief.
2. The procedure should be guaranteed C+ or better aisle/window or we don't board. At pilot discretion, we can accept another seat for leg block above rotation or reserve guarantee.
3. That guaranteed seat needs to be automatic, no 10-step process to book my seat. I show up and with zero input and I board my DH in my preferred seat
4. I'm sure there are a few who are APU misers but my guess is most captains; at least out of self preservation, are trying to keep the planes cool. My last trip we had warm planes on every leg and there wasn't a thing I could do about it. Ran the APU non-stop, sometimes had air and sometimes didn't, but the cabins heated up to the low 80s regardless of my efforts to keep them cool. Our external cooling equipment is garbage. One station I spoke with the station manager about his cooling hose with a nice 3" hole right next to the air attachment point. Other stations get the infamous sausage hose.
Good suggestion above to remind FAs to ask the PAX to pull down the window shades, I'll add that to my brief.
08-11-2019, 04:32 PM
#44
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Originally Posted by gopher3
Because said pilot cares more about his profit sharing check and saving the company money then he does the passengers fanning themselves with Sky magazine. He/she has made the conscious decision to let pax sweat it out a bit for their own selfish reasons. And i commute so i see it regularly.
08-11-2019, 04:46 PM
#45
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Originally Posted by Fredturbo
The MDs simply suck at customer comfort, a big part of which is the cooling capability. Flew on a AA E170 (one of their regionals) a while back and not only was the apu running at the gate (only 80 degrees outside), the cabin was nice and cold. Didn’t hurt that the windows were nice and big and appropriately placed and the coach seating had a ton of legroom. It felt sudo F. The overall experience was fantastic. In fact I felt it better in coach than in F on the 757 or md fleet.
08-11-2019, 04:49 PM
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I had a bad experience with a 757 flight out of pbi to atlanta. Apu was started after doors were closed for push, shut down apu as soon as hooked up at the gate. People were groaning in the back, FO stood at the door, didnt care when people said it was hot, just said that's because the APU was off.
76F. Max. On 321s ground air can easily go into the 90s so the APU starts right before they board and stays on until after push. Works great. It's been since my 88 days that someone said hold off on apu.
76F. Max. On 321s ground air can easily go into the 90s so the APU starts right before they board and stays on until after push. Works great. It's been since my 88 days that someone said hold off on apu.
08-11-2019, 05:18 PM
#48
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Originally Posted by tunes
i actually don't think that's it at all. I think a lot of guys are honestly completely oblivious to what's going on in the back.
08-12-2019, 06:22 AM
#50
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Originally Posted by tunes
i actually don't think that's it at all. I think a lot of guys are honestly completely oblivious to what's going on in the back.
Anyone who has been flying here a few years KNOWS (or should know) how stiflingly hot it can get in an aluminum tube...
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