Pilots should have special non-rev benefits above all other employee groups.

Ugh, finally. I waited forever.

This is really the important piece. Delta is very much involved with dictating policies and procedures at 9E. We are required to follow DL checklists and various other procedures not just on the pilot side but shared services operations as well and especially in 9E's OCC.

We have corporate employees who also hold positions at Delta and/or Delta Connection- not even just executive level roles either. And the best example I ever saw was touring the tower at JFK and seeing how closely Delta and Endeavor ops people are working together, right next to each other, you couldn't tell who was DL or 9E just by walking through. Man, things have changed since but at one point Delta pilots actually used to sit in on Endeavor pilot interviews and to this day Delta has a lot of stake and input in 9E's pilot hiring. The point is Delta dictates a lot that goes on at 9E. This is very very different than the other contract carriers.

My family are all Delta retirees and they have no issues with S3A because at the end of the day it rarely ever effects them.

This whole discussion is ridiculous. Guys going to work, and to work only, should have priority over retirees. Other than Pilots going to work, Delta retirees and their family should have priority over connection carrier Pilots and their families. It’s not that hard

Scoop

This is Delta IT that we're talking about...

Ha, I was just going to post this. They probably will institute a priority system when Delta IT can properly program it. So, the year 2145 at the earliest.

That's not the important part, our union violates DALPA's scope and bargains directly with DAL management. That technically makes us an alter ego.

They would have gotten rid of the airplanes one way or another. You are all very heavily vested in this game of claiming that what Delta asked for was a win. Tell me, how many 50 seaters do we have active compared to our scope limit? If you are correct, then we will be at the limit for 50 seat flying.

Interesting fact: the term alter ego doesn't exist in the Delta contract. Also, the RJ cutout pretty much makes it legal for Delta to own a regional as long as the certificates are kept separate.

He might have been talking about our bridge agreement. We have a contractual agreement between Endeavor ALPA and Delta management regarding our fleet commitment. It's in writing and specifies a minimum number of aircraft Delta will place in service with Endeavor.

Our MEC also spent the better part of last year trying to negotiate career progression directly with Delta.



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Sounded to me like since your CEO is also DAL management and your contract is negotiated with him, he believes your union is in violation of DALPA contract.