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#153
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We have corporate employees who also hold positions at Delta and/or Delta Connection- not even just executive level roles either. And the best example I ever saw was touring the tower at JFK and seeing how closely Delta and Endeavor ops people are working together, right next to each other, you couldn't tell who was DL or 9E just by walking through. Man, things have changed since but at one point Delta pilots actually used to sit in on Endeavor pilot interviews and to this day Delta has a lot of stake and input in 9E's pilot hiring. The point is Delta dictates a lot that goes on at 9E. This is very very different than the other contract carriers.
My family are all Delta retirees and they have no issues with S3A because at the end of the day it rarely ever effects them.
#154
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From: DAL 330
This whole discussion is ridiculous. Guys going to work, and to work only, should have priority over retirees. Other than Pilots going to work, Delta retirees and their family should have priority over connection carrier Pilots and their families. It’s not that hard
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#155
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From: Pilot
This is Delta IT that we're talking about...
#156
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Ha, I was just going to post this. They probably will institute a priority system when Delta IT can properly program it. So, the year 2145 at the earliest.
That's not the important part, our union violates DALPA's scope and bargains directly with DAL management. That technically makes us an alter ego.
That's not the important part, our union violates DALPA's scope and bargains directly with DAL management. That technically makes us an alter ego.
#157
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From: 737 FO
Wrong. We celebrated a huge reduction in the percentage of domestic passengers that were flown by non Delta Pilots. This percentage was huge and peaked around 2010-2012. The percentage of passengers flying on RJs has been steadily decreasing over the last decade.
Saying this was a bad move because 50 seaters were being parked anyway is faulty logic. Did this accelerate parking 50 seaters or not? Did overall numbers trend in the right direction or not? Finally who knows what alternative fleet plan the company could have went with had things been different.
In the last decade the total number of RJs, total RJ seats, and the percentage of passengers flying on mainline have all been trending in the right direction.
DALPA legitimately screwed up many things regarding Scope, TA-2 was not one of them.
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Saying this was a bad move because 50 seaters were being parked anyway is faulty logic. Did this accelerate parking 50 seaters or not? Did overall numbers trend in the right direction or not? Finally who knows what alternative fleet plan the company could have went with had things been different.
In the last decade the total number of RJs, total RJ seats, and the percentage of passengers flying on mainline have all been trending in the right direction.
DALPA legitimately screwed up many things regarding Scope, TA-2 was not one of them.
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It was a huge win for the pilots and resulted in Delta hiring more pilots than the other major airlines combined over the life of the contract. Without the changes in the 76 seat limits Delta would not have been able to get the existing lift contracts terminated and renegotiated. Results matter, they were far better than the forum projected.
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Ha, I was just going to post this. They probably will institute a priority system when Delta IT can properly program it. So, the year 2145 at the earliest.
That's not the important part, our union violates DALPA's scope and bargains directly with DAL management. That technically makes us an alter ego.
That's not the important part, our union violates DALPA's scope and bargains directly with DAL management. That technically makes us an alter ego.
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Our MEC also spent the better part of last year trying to negotiate career progression directly with Delta.
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He might have been talking about our bridge agreement. We have a contractual agreement between Endeavor ALPA and Delta management regarding our fleet commitment. It's in writing and specifies a minimum number of aircraft Delta will place in service with Endeavor.
Our MEC also spent the better part of last year trying to negotiate career progression directly with Delta.
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