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GogglesPisano 08-18-2019 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by Meow1215 (Post 2872356)
Their own metal, is Delta's metal. Hate to break the news to you.

Operated by Endeavor. So it’s Endeavor’s metal. And Endeavor employees and retirees should mostly definitely have priority in that case.

Mesabah 08-18-2019 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by Cogf16 (Post 2872260)
SIAP, but talked to a recent retiree and he was really upset about this (change?) that puts Endeavor guys ahead of our retiree's. I wholeheartedly agree. I say we put this high on our list for the contract. Not right.

If added into your contract, it would only be for retired pilots.

20Fathoms 08-18-2019 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by Meow1215 (Post 2872356)
Their own metal, is Delta's metal. Hate to break the news to you.

True but mainline is not their metal. Let me ask you this: Should compass, GoJet, Republic, and Skywest all go ahead of our retirees for vacation travel? Or just you guys? Our retirees gave a lot for this profession.

ChecklistMonkey 08-18-2019 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by 20Fathoms (Post 2872362)
True but mainline is not their metal. Let me ask you this: Should compass, GoJet, Republic, and Skywest all go ahead of our retirees for vacation travel? Or just you guys? Our retirees gave a lot for this profession.

Gave a lot, like scope? Haha. Sorry. I couldn't help myself.

fishforfun 08-18-2019 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by 20Fathoms (Post 2872362)
True but mainline is not their metal. Let me ask you this: Should compass, GoJet, Republic, and Skywest all go ahead of our retirees for vacation travel? Or just you guys? Our retirees gave a lot for this profession.

Based on the arguments, yes, they are active employees.

20Fathoms 08-18-2019 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by ChecklistMonkey (Post 2872364)
Gave a lot, like scope? Haha. Sorry. I couldn't help myself.

I guess I did set myself up for that :D

Dorp 08-18-2019 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by 20Fathoms (Post 2872362)
True but mainline is not their metal. Let me ask you this: Should compass, GoJet, Republic, and Skywest all go ahead of our retirees for vacation travel? Or just you guys? Our retirees gave a lot for this profession.

Yes they did, which is why Delta still gives them the ability to travel the world for free.

Speed Select 08-18-2019 03:31 PM

Totally don’t buy the “Endeavor employee NON-REVVING to work” argument. In that case, an Endeavor employee non-revving to WORK should have priority over an S2, right?

The jumpseat is for commuting. Non-reving is a benefit of employment (active or retired). Not eligible for the jumpseat? Then commuting to work at Endeavor is dicey career choice. Got bumped from the jumpseat? Commuter clause.

Endeavor is a wholly owned. They are not Delta employees. Their benefits should not undermine Delta employee benefits (active or retired).

I’m almost convinced this is a false flag move to force us to expend negotiating capital on a benefit we already had.

Signed,
Former ASA Mainline Pilot

fishforfun 08-18-2019 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by Speed Select (Post 2872370)
Totally don’t buy the “Endeavor employee NON-REVVING to work” argument. In that case, an Endeavor employee non-revving to WORK should have priority over an S2, right?

The jumpseat is for commuting. Non-reving is a benefit of employment (active or retired). Not eligible for the jumpseat? Then commuting to work at Endeavor is dicey career choice. Got bumped from the jumpseat? Commuter clause.

Endeavor is a wholly owned. They are not Delta employees. Their benefits should not undermine Delta employee benefits (active or retired).

I’m almost convinced this is a false flag move to force us to expend negotiating capital on a benefit we already had.

Agreed. Why can’t endeavor book jumpseat on delta just like us?

AimHigh1 08-18-2019 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by Speed Select (Post 2872370)
Totally don’t buy the “Endeavor employee NON-REVVING to work” argument. In that case, an Endeavor employee non-revving to WORK should have priority over an S2, right?

The jumpseat is for commuting. Non-reving is a benefit of employment (active or retired). Not eligible for the jumpseat? Then commuting to work at Endeavor is dicey career choice. Got bumped from the jumpseat? Commuter clause.

:confused: :confused: :confused:

So only 1-2 people per flight can commute to work? lol


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