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herewego 08-19-2019 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by 20Fathoms (Post 2872279)

There could obviously be exceptions for pilots commuting to work, but arguing that a retiree should lose the last Delta One seat to Sydney to an Endeavor new hire is going to be a pretty tough ask here.

I thought retirement was supposed to be a life of leisure where there are no time constraints.
Not sure how many new hires can afford to go to Sydney, and if they could it would be really tough to fit it in on their max 4 days off stretch. The retired guys/gals can be stuck out and continue to enjoy another shrimp and frothy on the beach if their priority forces them to get thrown into that briar patch.

PilotJ3 08-19-2019 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by herewego (Post 2872665)
I thought retirement was supposed to be a life of leisure where there are no time constraints.
Not sure how many new hires can afford to go to Sydney, and if they could it would be really tough to fit it in on their max 4 days off stretch. The retired guys/gals can be stuck out and continue to enjoy another shrimp and frothy on the beach if their priority forces them to get thrown into that briar patch.

You know that there are regionals with more than 4days off in a row? And some NHs do crazy stuff while waiting for those sim trainings, some regionals have 1-2 months wait between indoc and sim.

You know, first job after CFi, living still in their parents house with a 20-30k new hire bonus and getting a paycheck every two weeks.

Speed Select 08-19-2019 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by AimHigh1 (Post 2872373)
:confused: :confused: :confused:

So only 1-2 people per flight can commute to work? lol

We can take as many jumpseaters as we have open seats in the back. LOL.

Open the FA Jumpseat to wholly-owned pilots. Implement Delta commuter clause policies at Endeavor. But don’t erode the benefits of working at (and retiring from) Delta.

Iceberg 08-19-2019 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by Speed Select (Post 2872783)
We can take as many jumpseaters as we have open seats in the back. LOL.

Open the FA Jumpseat to wholly-owned pilots. Implement Delta commuter clause policies at Endeavor. But don’t erode the benefits of working at (and retiring from) Delta.

They already have a commuter clause that mirrors ours.

ChecklistMonkey 08-19-2019 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by Iceberg (Post 2872789)
They already have a commuter clause that mirrors ours.

And that's the reason they changed it because Endeavor employees were bumped by traveling retirees and they had to buy a ticket on the next flight for them bumping revenue. Unlike us, their policy is a no fault policy.

Silver02ex 08-19-2019 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 2872529)
That’s true but that’s not the point and you know it. You benefitted from the sacrifices of the pilots that were here and had to endure them.

Denny

I wouldn’t call $20/hr to fly an RJ during the lost decade was a benefit. Everyone suffered during those times.

Speed Select 08-19-2019 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by ChecklistMonkey (Post 2872792)
And that's the reason they changed it because Endeavor employees were bumped by traveling retirees and they had to buy a ticket on the next flight for them bumping revenue. Unlike us, their policy is a no fault policy.

Great. You get bumped from your first flight? Call ATL and get your status bumped up to S3A or S2A or S1C... get the pilot/FA to work! Our commuter policy works pretty well.

Blanket S3A is an erosion of Delta employee (active and retired) benefits.

FliesInSoup 08-19-2019 11:58 AM

Easy solution here. Home Basing.

jethikoki 08-19-2019 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by FliesInSoup (Post 2872847)
Easy solution here. Home Basing.

Easier solution is to stop all regional and outsource flying. All in-house and no non union flying.

FliesInSoup 08-19-2019 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by jethikoki (Post 2872850)
Easier solution is to stop all regional and outsource flying. All in-house and no non union flying.

I like that too.


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