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Yumyum 08-19-2019 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by ChecklistMonkey (Post 2872999)
I wasn't the one in need of the education. But thanks for doing the work for him.

Can’t we all get along? If it doesn't fit, you must acquit..

Cannonball 08-19-2019 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by ChecklistMonkey (Post 2872999)
I wasn't the one in need of the education. But thanks for doing the work for him.



New phone, who dis


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ChecklistMonkey 08-19-2019 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by Yumyum (Post 2873007)
Can’t we all get along? If it doesn't fit, you must acquit..

I prefer the Chewbacca defense.

GucciBoy 08-19-2019 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by Meow1215 (Post 2873005)
Given your handle, I’ll take that as a compliment.



You’re on guard.


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Meow1215 08-19-2019 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by GucciBoy (Post 2873031)
You’re on guard.


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We’re all on guard.

gloopy 08-19-2019 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by Meow1215 (Post 2873052)
We’re all on guard.

Leave my mom out of this.

Scoop 08-19-2019 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by ChecklistMonkey (Post 2872999)
I wasn't the one in need of the education. But thanks for doing the work for him.

Well please educate the rest of us. Since the supposed “Scope sale” by mainline Pilots was so atrocious you obviously never flew RJs, so what was your background?

OBTW do you think the 1300 DAL Pilots who were directly replaced by RJs were for selling Scope? You are very ignorant of what was going on back then.

Do you suppose we were eager to give up 42% of our pay? Our retirements? Vacation? Work rules? Pay overrides? Scope was never willingly sold, just as none of the above were willingly given up.

Back in the early 1990s there was no Scope, zero because the threat was not there. RJs came on the scene and Leo Mullin and Fred Reid went bonkers ordering RJs all in the name of frequency even though passengers did not like them. Then came 9-11 and Pilots at most airlines were taken to the cleaners by carpetbagging management who capitalized on the situation to gut our contracts.

RJ Pilots complaining about Scope crack me up. I get it, many had no other option so they did what had to be done. But blaming mainline Pilots for somehow not stopping RJ outsourcing is misguided. Management had BK, the courts, and the RLA in their corner. DALPA had what exactly in their corner?

Since you are now at DAL why haven’t we clawed back Scope? Why do we have JVs? Why are we losing flying to our Skyteam partners?

I can’t wait for some new hire in 10 years to blame you for all of these issues.

Scoop

ChecklistMonkey 08-19-2019 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 2873058)
Well please educate the rest of us. Since the supposed “Scope sale” by mainline Pilots was so atrocious you obviously never flew RJs, so what was your background?

OBTW do you think the 1300 DAL Pilots who were directly replaced by RJs were for selling Scope? You are very ignorant of what was going on back then.

Do you suppose we were eager to give up 42% of our pay? Our retirements? Vacation? Work rules? Pay overrides? Scope was never willingly sold, just as none of the above were willingly given up.

Back in the early 1990s there was no Scope, zero because the threat was not there. RJs came on the scene and Leo Mullin and Fred Reid went bonkers ordering RJs all in the name of frequency even though passengers did not like them. Then came 9-11 and Pilots at most airlines were taken to the cleaners by carpetbagging management who capitalized on the situation to gut our contracts.

RJ Pilots complaining about Scope crack me up. I get it, many had no other option so they did what had to be done. But blaming mainline Pilots for somehow not stopping RJ outsourcing is misguided. Management had BK, the courts, and the RLA in their corner. DALPA had what exactly in their corner?

Since you are now at DAL why haven’t we clawed back Scope? Why do we have JVs? Why are we losing flying to our Skyteam partners?

I can’t wait for some new hire in 10 years to blame you for all of these issues.

Scoop

Whoa there Spartacus. Maybe pop a xanex and go back and read the post I was referring to first.

20Fathoms 08-19-2019 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by ChecklistMonkey (Post 2873071)
Whoa there Spartacus. Maybe pop a xanex and go back and read the post I was referring to first.

I thought Cory Booker was Spartacus? Now I’m just confused :D Seriously though, Scoop is one of the least Xanex-needing posters on this site.....

ChecklistMonkey 08-19-2019 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by 20Fathoms (Post 2873079)
I thought Cory Booker was Spartacus? Now I’m just confused :D Seriously though, Scoop is one of the least Xanex-needing posters on this site.....

But in this case, he's not. I was talking to someone about our unable to commute policy because he clearly had no idea what it entailed. Then Scoop goes all 300 on my snarky comment to the guy assuming I'm talking about scope


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