I don't think you understand what their or our commuter policy is. Probably would help to educate yourself.

Dude you nailed it. Mainline Pilots were very eager to give up scope prior to and during BK. Almost as eager as we were to give up 42% of our pay, 2 weeks of vacation, numerous pay overrides etc.

DALPA has made many mistakes including some on Scope it’s too bad you weren’t on property to lead us through BK. :cool:

Scoop

I would have loved to been on property then so I could take a 42% paycut and STILL be making 6 figures. Instead, we are all making $20k a year with bad benefits and minimal retirement working all but 10 days a month.

Moral of the story: yes, you had to make some sacrifices. But don't stand up on your soap box and preach to people who fought poverty wages for an additional 7-10 years that you all had it so rough or that you did what you did so I can reap the benefits now. You did it for you.

You need to back down a bit. Many of us who were on the property at that time were forced into a 100% pay cut. Many of us were forced into low paying entry level jobs to try and make ends meet.

As a new hire I was an engineer on the 727. I was in that seat for two years until I was furloughed. Engineer time doesn’t count for anything really. I found that out going to recruiting events to try and find another flying job. Guess what? I was told I wasn’t competitive because of my lack of recency. Guess who was competitive?......yep, the regional guys who were flying their butts off as the majors shrank.

This isn’t a poor me story in any way. But to use your words, you need to get off your soap box and quit preaching about how bad you had it. A lot of you regional guys had it better than a lot of us major guys at that time.

It’s not just that, Delta may have to buy off a customer on the next flight. That can be thousands of dollars, and that is the main reason for the change.

The other regionals assume the liability for that, whereas Delta fits the bill for the WO.

I don't see how any regional had it better without any power. Just look what happened to the Comair guys. (I do not agree nor defend the route they choose.) Without any power you are subject to get used and abused which is why scope should not have been given away creating the 2 class system. You show reluctance to support regionals but much more willing to take away when it benefits you.

The policies are one and the same. The Endeavor contract provides “a commuting Pilot the same ‘Unable to Commute Policy’ as that which is provided to Delta pilots”

Don’t like Endeavor having Unable to Commute? Get rid of it for mainline pilots and Endeavor pilots won’t have it either.


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I wasn't the one in need of the education. But thanks for doing the work for him.

You got my vote.

Given your handle, I’ll take that as a compliment.