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01-22-2020 | 04:05 PM
#471
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Help clear something up for me:
The ALPA interactive dashboard shows projected ATL 73N B at 332 FO's.
The AE document published for this bid has a Forecast of Pilot Staffing table on page 6 of the PDF. This shows ATL 73N B at 392 FO's.
Does this mean that ATL 73N B is growing by 67 FO's between now and August? Or am I missing something?
The ALPA interactive dashboard shows projected ATL 73N B at 332 FO's.
The AE document published for this bid has a Forecast of Pilot Staffing table on page 6 of the PDF. This shows ATL 73N B at 392 FO's.
Does this mean that ATL 73N B is growing by 67 FO's between now and August? Or am I missing something?
01-22-2020 | 04:07 PM
#472
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Help clear something up for me:
The ALPA interactive dashboard shows projected ATL 73N B at 332 FO's.
The AE document published for this bid has a Forecast of Pilot Staffing table on page 6 of the PDF. This shows ATL 73N B at 392 FO's.
Does this mean that ATL 73N B is growing by 67 FO's between now and August? Or am I missing something?
The ALPA interactive dashboard shows projected ATL 73N B at 332 FO's.
The AE document published for this bid has a Forecast of Pilot Staffing table on page 6 of the PDF. This shows ATL 73N B at 392 FO's.
Does this mean that ATL 73N B is growing by 67 FO's between now and August? Or am I missing something?
01-22-2020 | 04:13 PM
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On second thought, you're right about ATL 73N B, but the math doesn't work out for ATL 320 B.
ALPA currently projects 363 and the AE document projects 424 for a growth of 61. But the AE states that there are 65 vacancies for ATL 320 B.
ALPA currently projects 363 and the AE document projects 424 for a growth of 61. But the AE states that there are 65 vacancies for ATL 320 B.
01-22-2020 | 04:51 PM
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01-22-2020 | 04:56 PM
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The Dashboard only shows what is currently awarded, although it does included those waiting for training. It never shows anything regarding an AE that is not awarded yet because it doesn't know whether you'll be senior or junior to pilots who bid it until that is released.
01-22-2020 | 05:00 PM
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The Dashboard only shows what is currently awarded, although it does included those waiting for training. It never shows anything regarding an AE that is not awarded yet because it doesn't know whether you'll be senior or junior to pilots who bid it until that is released.
You should be able to take ALPA’s latest projected number, add the new vacancies from the AE, and it should equal the total size for a category in the company’s projected staffing table for any given AE.
01-22-2020 | 05:28 PM
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I agree; so take another look at my follow up post with that in mind. Why is there a difference in 4 extra pilots for ATL 320 B? This may apply to other categories but I haven’t looked at any of the others.
You should be able to take ALPA’s latest projected number, add the new vacancies from the AE, and it should equal the total size for a category in the company’s projected staffing table for any given AE.
You should be able to take ALPA’s latest projected number, add the new vacancies from the AE, and it should equal the total size for a category in the company’s projected staffing table for any given AE.
Just so you know, my numbers don’t match up either (between the Dashboard and AE). In my case they’re in the other direction though...looks like 5 guys/gals are being added within those two months that aren’t accounted for by the AE.
It’s just a matter of where the Dashboard is pulling it’s numbers and it’s usually a little dated (in my experience).
01-23-2020 | 03:27 AM
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Current junior 7ER Capt is just a bit under 8000 and a March 2007 hire based in NYC. As big as this bid is combined with the fall of Intl flying on the ER I see junior ER Capt in NYC being one of the biggest shocks with a fall to 2010 or 2014 hire in the early 9000s range.
01-23-2020 | 03:30 AM
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their pay might be a significant jump if they arent playing the scheduling games on the B side. They are absolutely 'working' a whole lot more as a NB A than a WB B....that's where you have to decide what's more important to you: the pay, or the QOL.
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