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Old 05-12-2020 | 01:52 PM
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Unscientific observation, but it seems like every captain I fly with, who is within 4 years of retirement has one of those countdown timers on their iPad home screen that shows the years, months, days, hours, minutes and seconds to retirement.......🤣🤣
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Old 05-12-2020 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BobZ
No early out pkg until we agree on size of pay cut.

Its gona look like contract 96 and the pre 72 escape hatch that closed with signing.

50hrs at current pay rates will look dang good after we take a 30% cut
you forget this is Delta! You will be 50 hrs at current pay rate then it will Change to 50 hrs 30% pay cut. Who we kidding
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Old 05-12-2020 | 02:39 PM
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This looks like a rally the pilots to stand firm email to me. Union has offered to work with the company on solutions. Company says no thanks. Later company will come at us with threats and scare tactics, tell rest of company how bad and selfish the pilots are, and it will be our turn to say no thanks.
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Old 05-12-2020 | 02:51 PM
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Seems to me the best thing we could do for the company is to help the other groups unionize ASAP. Management decision making seems to be primarily driven by the desire to demonstrate to other work groups why having a union isn't advantageous...or could even be disadvantageous. Because of that, much like they have with many other things, they've decided to take the road of zero communication and imposing edicts, rather than treat us like the bargaining agent we are.

They were so scared of flight attendants that they didn't offer SILs. And, let's be honest, who's going to take a SIL now? I would have then, but I'm rather enjoying Reserve Guarantee, thank you very much. But they managed to quiet the FAs, didn't they? Worth every penny, I guess.

Let's just get the other workgroups unionized so that management can start thinking clearly. That might get us some more clear eyed solutions going forward.
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Old 05-12-2020 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by clear4approach
Unscientific observation, but it seems like every captain I fly with, who is within 4 years of retirement has one of those countdown timers on their iPad home screen that shows the years, months, days, hours, minutes and seconds to retirement.......🤣🤣
Mine was on my phone, staring at over 1,000 days. I miss it sometimes but glad I’m not at UAL right now.
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Old 05-12-2020 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by clear4approach
Unscientific observation, but it seems like every captain I fly with, who is within 4 years of retirement has one of those countdown timers on their iPad home screen that shows the years, months, days, hours, minutes and seconds to retirement.......🤣🤣
Every FO I fly with has pictures of his cats on the iPad. What's up with that?
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Old 05-12-2020 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley
Every FO I fly with has pictures of his cats on the iPad. What's up with that?
Making his move on the F/A's....... Yuck! That was even hard to type.
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Old 05-12-2020 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley
Every FO I fly with has pictures of his cats on the iPad. What's up with that?
Nothing wrong with cats...
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Old 05-12-2020 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Banzai
Seems to me the best thing we could do for the company is to help the other groups unionize ASAP. Management decision making seems to be primarily driven by the desire to demonstrate to other work groups why having a union isn't advantageous...or could even be disadvantageous. Because of that, much like they have with many other things, they've decided to take the road of zero communication and imposing edicts, rather than treat us like the bargaining agent we are.

They were so scared of flight attendants that they didn't offer SILs. And, let's be honest, who's going to take a SIL now? I would have then, but I'm rather enjoying Reserve Guarantee, thank you very much. But they managed to quiet the FAs, didn't they? Worth every penny, I guess.

Let's just get the other workgroups unionized so that management can start thinking clearly. That might get us some more clear eyed solutions going forward.
I doubt it would change much for us. I came from a regional in which every work group was organized. When negotiating items, the company would frequently use the excuse that they couldn't agree to something because another union on property had a me-too clause that would come into play. Bottom line: the company, unionized or not, will always use every excuse they can come up with.
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Old 05-12-2020 | 04:45 PM
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I just don’t see delta offering AA ERP. DAL management just likes to make thing’s difficult.
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