Originally Posted by Dorfman

No. I do not nor do you have a long term study on what happens to cases of Covid 19.

I will tell you I was skeptical. I did a lot of research on mRNA before getting my shot. I talked to smart Drs I respect, one who is connected to some independent research groups looking at this. As far as my google type research I made sure I could find information in multiple places not just one source.

As I said before do what is right for you. Just be informed

Originally Posted by Dorfman

From the CDC Pfizer vaccine is 95% effective in preventing confirmed Covid 19 cases. Also if you do a little google searching on Pfizer and Israel the findings are very good in preventing the spread of Covid. There is so much misinformation out there that people keep spewing. A lot of it is twisted bits of information that came from legit sources, simply quote out of context.

here are a couple for you

mRNA is new technology. Sure if by new you mean it’s been around since 1995.

it changes your DNA. No it uses mRNA something to produce a spike protein. It does not affect your DNA



interestingly enough the WSJ and others are now reporting that the Russian government is behind a campaign of misinformation about the Pfizer vaccine. Why you ask? Because they want to sell there non phase 3 trialed vaccine to the world instead of Pfizers.

look I have no issue if you don’t want to get the vaccine just don’t spread misinformation.

Originally Posted by Drum

You've fallen for the trap. If you'd actually read what Phins' has written, and he's been right on a lot relating to this event, he told you this is not a true vaccine. It is not a shield against the virus. It might lessen the impact. That's from Pfizer's own words and that is what he posted.

He told you that. Yet here you are thinking the shot is going to magically protect you??? Jeebus this thread is frickin echo chamber.

That's not how it works. Oh yeah what happened to the 2020 flu season?

I'm not taking it. I don't need it. Maybe if I was 85 with multiple health issues. But no. I'm not getting it. No one in my family is either.

Send me to a camp.

Originally Posted by Nantonaku

Seriously? And you believe that? Their first misinformation campaign was spending $100k on random Facebook ads that didn’t do anything. If that $100k resulted in any changes at all in any election it was the greatest bargain of all time. This newest misinformation must be working great considering we don’t currently, nor will we ever have access to their vaccine.

Originally Posted by TED74

Just so I understand...I should listen to what Pfizer says, but only the parts that anonymous double retired senior leader/airline FO/overall rude dude points me to and no other parts of their messaging? And Fauci isn’t legitimate because he doesn’t practice primary care, but his oncologist wife’s signature next to everyone’s favorite demon sperm lady and 70,000 other great minds (most of whom practice neither public health nor infectious disease or other relevant fields specialities in medicine)... should tell me all I need to know?

Multiple vaccines (including mRNA vaccines) have demonstrably lessened the impact of covid on those who have taken them in statistically relevant numbers. If you deny that fact, and claim that these aren’t “real vaccines”, I’d be interested to know how you personally define a “real vaccine”...and perhaps you qualifications? I know you’re a slightly below slightly above average ER pilot, and in today’s world that should be all the training you need. However, knowing numerous actual physicians with opinions diametrically opposed to yours and Phins’, I’m just at a loss on whose expertise to trust.

Doctors? Scientists? Or...internet garbage regurgitaters? The choice is so difficult.

Hopefully one of you can share what on Pfizer’s website we should use as proof for your arguments, and what we should know is demonstrably false. Heck, there’s probably some good lawsuit money to be had if you can prove that Pfizer is false-advertising in use of the vernacular COVID19 VACCINE. https://www.pfizer.com/news/hot-topi...vid_19_vaccine

Did Phins ever confirm if the Resolute desk that JB sits behind isn’t real either?

Originally Posted by GogglesPisano

I swear they put alcohol on my arm before the shot. Should I be worried? 🥺

But seriously, this is the first I’ve heard of this.

Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux

News to me as well. Read some story about the Russian vaccine where the rec was to avoid alcohol for 3 MONTHS. Given Russian drinking habits, this seems like rather unrealistically optimistic advice.

Intrigued, I looked up advice about US shots. Apparently the more alcohol in your system, the more suppressed your immune system response will be. Since vaccines are trying to stimulate a maximum response, most advice is no alcohol 1 week before and a couple weeks after for best results.

Seems like that’s kind of important info they’d mention during a shot, no?

Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux

News to me as well. Read some story about the Russian vaccine where the rec was to avoid alcohol for 3 MONTHS. Given Russian drinking habits, this seems like rather unrealistically optimistic advice.

Intrigued, I looked up advice about US shots. Apparently the more alcohol in your system, the more suppressed your immune system response will be. Since vaccines are trying to stimulate a maximum response, most advice is no alcohol 1 week before and a couple weeks after for best results.

Seems like that’s kind of important info they’d mention during a shot, no?

Originally Posted by Iceberg

They probably figure it’s better to have a higher percentage of mostly inoculated drunks than a lower percentage of highly inoculated sober folks surrounded by a lot of drunks who didn’t get stabbed because they weren’t gonna not drink.