Originally Posted by Iceberg

I don’t know how a pilot group vote would go. There are some pilots that are against it solely because it wasn’t available to them. There are some that are against it because of a fear of the quality of pilot that wouldn’t be weeded out. There are those that are for it because, why not help the next generation? Others just don’t care. Others would need to see the deal as a whole before making a decision.

I first heard the story of the jump seating VP when I was still a regional pilot. I’ve heard it since then. I think plans have changed. I think management sees how badly they need to bring up capacity to compete with the other airlines that didn’t put themselves in a large staffing hole. ATL doesn’t have training capacity to hire many pilots to bring back “retired” airplanes or staff accelerated deliveries. They do have multiple regional partners who can spool up to staff 35 RJs that haven’t been put into long term storage like they were supposed to. Those planes and the flow are a short term stop gap that may get taken away by an arbitrator after a drawn out grievance. Or, if management gets their way, those planes stay anyway.

Originally Posted by NYCaviator

There are plenty of captains at 9E that I’ve flown with who have gotten a TBNT from Delta but are amazing captains. They put in more work than the captains I’ve seen from Delta yet now they’ve gotten a double no. Yet there are captains I’d have on my no fly list and go out of my way to never fly with again that make it to Delta. At the end of the day Deltas interview/onboarding process doesn’t “weed out” the incompetent people.

Originally Posted by NYCaviator

There are plenty of captains at 9E that I’ve flown with who have gotten a TBNT from Delta but are amazing captains. They put in more work than the captains I’ve seen from Delta yet now they’ve gotten a double no. Yet there are captains I’d have on my no fly list and go out of my way to never fly with again that make it to Delta. At the end of the day Deltas interview/onboarding process doesn’t “weed out” the incompetent people.

Originally Posted by FreightWasScary

where can I get a set of those blinders? Enjoy the right seat kid glad you’re the subject matter expert so the rest of us can carry on. Also you don’t know the work we’ve done to get here.... so enjoy the CRJ. CYA

Originally Posted by m3113n1a1

You seem to be the one with blinders. I've known plenty of guys who definitely shouldn't get hired who got hired on their first attempt and quite a few awesome guys and pilots who got turned down. There's a large amount of luck in getting hired here. We're not that special, get over yourself.

Originally Posted by sailingfun

As I stated in another post the negotiators notes would be the key to understanding intent for this section. I suspect people are looking as we speak.

Originally Posted by sailingfun

As I stated in another post the negotiators notes would be the key to understanding intent for this section. I suspect people are looking as we speak.