New Hire Class Drops
02-08-2022 | 12:27 PM
#1491
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So to be clear…. 80xx seniority number is better than a 12xx number?
and if someone had a 80xx number, they could at least have a little hope of getting something close to what they want?
also, is DAL planning to *grow* at all? For example 13K pilots today, how many planned in 2025?
and if someone had a 80xx number, they could at least have a little hope of getting something close to what they want?
also, is DAL planning to *grow* at all? For example 13K pilots today, how many planned in 2025?
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02-08-2022 | 12:46 PM
#1492
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02-08-2022 | 12:59 PM
#1493
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From: UNA
So to be clear…. 80xx seniority number is better than a 12xx number?
and if someone had a 80xx number, they could at least have a little hope of getting something close to what they want?
also, is DAL planning to *grow* at all? For example 13K pilots today, how many planned in 2025?
and if someone had a 80xx number, they could at least have a little hope of getting something close to what they want?
also, is DAL planning to *grow* at all? For example 13K pilots today, how many planned in 2025?
12XX *Seniority number* is definitely better than 80XX
i think DAL is planning to grow, to what number is just speculation but I think 15,000-16,000 is not unreasonable.
02-08-2022 | 02:05 PM
#1495
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I’ve heard we want 16.5K by summer 25.
02-08-2022 | 02:37 PM
#1496
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Well they have reversed the retirement of the 717s and the 7ERs that were planned to be phased out by 2025. Actually they are reactivating the 717s they had parked, mid 60s now with the potential of adding more perhaps. We are still taking delivery of 220, NEOs, 330s, and 350s. So Im felling like I can say with 51% confidence that we are planning to grow.
02-08-2022 | 02:44 PM
#1497
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Well they have reversed the retirement of the 717s and the 7ERs that were planned to be phased out by 2025. Actually they are reactivating the 717s they had parked, mid 60s now with the potential of adding more perhaps. We are still taking delivery of 220, NEOs, 330s, and 350s. So Im felling like I can say with 51% confidence that we are planning to grow.
02-08-2022 | 02:52 PM
#1498
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- Most categories are handing out plenty of greenslips in the slowest month of the entire year of flying
- International fleets are not staffed normally yet since they are doing domestic ops
Probably ought to be at 14,500 right now just to avoid another holiday mass cancellation event, without any growth.
02-08-2022 | 03:08 PM
#1499
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Think of it this way, there's around 13,300 right now and:
- Most categories are handing out plenty of greenslips in the slowest month of the entire year of flying
- International fleets are not staffed normally yet since they are doing domestic ops
Probably ought to be at 14,500 right now just to avoid another holiday mass cancellation event, without any growth.
- Most categories are handing out plenty of greenslips in the slowest month of the entire year of flying
- International fleets are not staffed normally yet since they are doing domestic ops
Probably ought to be at 14,500 right now just to avoid another holiday mass cancellation event, without any growth.
But this all falls into the category of speculation, albeit more like an educated guess.
02-08-2022 | 03:15 PM
#1500
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I was one of the last few classes before covid and I believe I was 15.6 pre-covid. I'm around 12.0 now, so if you think about it 16k pilots is really minimal growth from where we were in 2019. And 2020 we were going to hire 1400 and try to get 16.5+
Factor in a new contract that may require more pilots on top of that. We have a long way to go in hiring just to get back to our old size. Then factor in growth.... Hopefully no more global hiccups this decade. Could be great timing for a lot of individuals.
Factor in a new contract that may require more pilots on top of that. We have a long way to go in hiring just to get back to our old size. Then factor in growth.... Hopefully no more global hiccups this decade. Could be great timing for a lot of individuals.
From there we drifted down to the 144xx’s for most of 2019. The April 2020 list had us back 14701. 12538 was the post-pandemic low in June 2021.
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