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05-12-2022 | 08:07 AM

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flyinthrew

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Originally Posted by jaxsurf

No doubt.

I can’t imagine what it would be like to deal with an AF ‘call me colonel’ type who had been awarded a captain spot after 6 months at the company. They’d be truly insufferable.

Extremely true! Something I’ve taken with me since I was an 18 year old enlisted kid was to not only learn and take on what you can from the good leaders you encounter, but also the bad leaders. I’ve flown with some excellent captains, and I have yet to fly with anybody I wouldn’t fly with again, but I have seen how NOT to do CRM from a few guys and that’s left an indelible mark.

05-12-2022 | 08:40 AM

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DWC CAP10 USAF

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Originally Posted by Gone Flying

WATRS is not too difficult once you have seen it a couple times and other than some near international stuff, it really isn’t that different.

Well WATRS is difficult enough because Delta has had an uptick in deviations…enough so that the FAA called Delta to the table for a chat about it. Expects WATRS to be in QCQ later this year and two new e-brief videos; one on normal Ops and one on contingencies.

05-12-2022 | 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF

I never understood how we have TOE for widebodies, but nothing for 737 drivers unleashed on the WATRS routes with nothing but domestic OE.

05-12-2022 | 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF

Deviations for what?

05-12-2022 | 09:26 AM

#2105

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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF

interesting. Probably not a bad idea. I know a couple other airlines actually have a sim day dedicated to intl ops including WATRS.

while I think we definitely could use more training, I don’t think it’s super crazy or something that would keep me from upgrading on the 737

05-12-2022 | 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF

I bet most of those deviations are SLC, LAX, SEA pilots.

05-12-2022 | 11:25 AM

#2107

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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano

I never understood how we have TOE for widebodies, but nothing for 737 drivers unleashed on the WATRS routes with nothing but domestic OE.

It’s not that hard, follow the dang guide. And don’t be scared of a HF radio!

05-12-2022 | 11:40 AM

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WATRS should be a theatre qual just like Atlantic and pacific.

05-12-2022 | 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by waldo135

Deviations for what?

the only one that the LCP shared with me was a Capt that was deviating without asking for it…thought that RNP 10 was carte blanche to maneuver up to 10 as he saw fit. NY selcal’d them and asked them what they were doing.