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Old 08-02-2022, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by PhilMcCrackin
Once you are awarded your initial aircraft, you cannot change types for another 2 years? Unless you can hold captain on another type?
you can change types after 12 months if the type youíre on is not available in the base youíre transferring to. So a dtw717 pilot could be awarded slc320 FO after 1 year, because SLC doesnít have the 717.
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Old 08-02-2022, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
Advance Entitlement (AE) has open positions available for everyone on the seniority list to bid.

Whatever positions donít get scooped up will be offered to noobs.

In your notional new hire class of 50 pilots, they arenít going to tell you there at 10 NYC 767-400 slots and 40 NYC A220 slots.

They will just provide you with a list of bases/plane combos that are availableÖ.767 and 220Ö.no number of positions will be provided to you.

Iím sorry to drag you in, I was being heavily sarcastic.

Someone has to have the drop numbers for this class by now. They literally started today.
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Old 08-02-2022, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by PhilMcCrackin
Once you are awarded your initial aircraft, you cannot change types for another 2 years? Unless you can hold captain on another type?
Not correct, you can bid to any base after 1 year that you canít hold your current equipment at on that bid. It might require a two step bid process but is fairly easy to beat the two year freeze. You freeze date starts at award date so effectively a 9 month freeze from training.
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Old 08-02-2022, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by hotmicoffNOW
Iím sorry to drag you in, I was being heavily sarcastic.

Someone has to have the drop numbers for this class by now. They literally started today.
And thatís literally the first thing someone in that class is going to do is pull up APC and post the numbers for all the world to seeÖ

Sarcasm right back at ya 😉😀
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Old 08-02-2022, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
To add to the above what they award will also be based on current training capacity available for each fleet. Itís in their best interest to a certain extent to try and award you something you will stay on for a longer period of time. Itís rather easy to manipulate a training freeze that effectively is only 9 months after training completion. Depending on capacity they have some flexibility in the awards.
Itís actually pretty smart of the company and a small potential QOL win for new hires (although theyíll never know the drop was tweaked to benefit them).
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
And thatís literally the first thing someone in that class is going to do is pull up APC and post the numbers for all the world to seeÖ

Sarcasm right back at ya 😉😀
Youíre so right! I hope you have the most splendid widget week ever!
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Old 08-03-2022, 05:00 AM
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8/2 drop was:
atl 7erb - 4
nyc 7erb - 16
atl 73nb - 8
nyc 320b - 4
slc 320b - 4
dtw 717b - 4
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Old 08-03-2022, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by hotmicoffNOW
Iím sorry to drag you in, I was being heavily sarcastic.

Someone has to have the drop numbers for this class by now. They literally started today.
I guess I don't see the relevancy of knowing how many of each plane to a particular class.

First, you would have to know how many unbid positions were left from the latest AE and then keep track of every single indoc class to know how many of those unbid positions remain to be filled.

Then if you knew that, you would have to know the company short term sim training capabilities in the 4-6 weeks following your particular indoc date.

One class could have a peanut butter spread of 3-4 planes to every domicile. then next class, Boom....30 x NYC A-220's and 30 x NYC 737's.

Past performance does not guarantee future results come to mind.
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Old 08-03-2022, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
I guess I don't see the relevancy of knowing how many of each plane to a particular class.

First, you would have to know how many unbid positions were left from the latest AE and then keep track of every single indoc class to know how many of those unbid positions remain to be filled.

Then if you knew that, you would have to know the company short term sim training capabilities in the 4-6 weeks following your particular indoc date.

One class could have a peanut butter spread of 3-4 planes to every domicile. then next class, Boom....30 x NYC A-220's and 30 x NYC 737's.

Past performance does not guarantee future results come to mind.
You have anxious people interested in the one part of the process they have some semblance of control over. They would like some reassurance - any reassurance - about that part, that might give them their opportunity to get their base of choice or at least an aircraft that might allow them to promptly get to their base of choice. It’s emotional, not rational, but it’s sort of how most people are. They are just being human.
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Old 08-03-2022, 01:19 PM
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For everyone waiting for a class dateÖ just got an email with an indoc class date of 9/13. 5/25 CJO.
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