Originally Posted by Xray678

you’re confusing leads and chiefs. A lead line check pilot is just very slightly above a “knuckle dragger”. The chief standards captain (formerly known as the chief line check pilot) goes to the kind of meetings you are talking about.

Originally Posted by Xray678

you’re confusing leads and chiefs. A lead line check pilot is just very slightly above a “knuckle dragger”. The chief standards captain (formerly known as the chief line check pilot) goes to the kind of meetings you are talking about.

Originally Posted by Xray678

you’re confusing leads and chiefs. A lead line check pilot is just very slightly above a “knuckle dragger”. The chief standards captain (formerly known as the chief line check pilot) goes to the kind of meetings you are talking about.

Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo

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Screw it. Done with this. No more info. Have fun. I stopped posting on the Fleets thread, I'm done here too.

Good day.

Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo

JFC, no I'm not getting them confused.

Presently they're actually called 'CHIEF STANDARDS CAPTAIN". For decades they were called "Fleet XXX Lead Line Check Pilot". Then they were called "Chief Line Check Pilot" You morons will parse they most freakin' insignificant stuff here. You know what I meant.

Screw it. Done with this. No more info. Have fun. I stopped posting on the Fleets thread, I'm done here too.

Good day.

Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo

I was at meetings in ATL. Can't give you all the "inside" info but expect new hire classes (other than flows) to begin OOA mid Jan - Feb maybe as late as March. I can't give you specific dates, just the the general timeframe. I know the dates, it was in the presentation. Just can't be specific. From the presentation I am willing to say that maybe mid to late January is likely, but that's my own summation based on what was presented.

MAX 10 is looking more like Q2-Q3 of 2027. Still lots of supply chain issues with NEOs as well. The further MAX delays, coupled with the NEO delays, means we are basically hiring for attrition only. So I would tell you expect around 500ish hires for 2026. Maybe slightly more. Again, can't get into the specific numbers, only general stuff.

767-300ER retirement is getting pushed up to ~2028. It's been published 2030, but that timeline is getting moved to the left. 75's - quite a few will go to the desert as well. We'll keep as many around as we can given parts and supplies. Tough issue to be in here, but the goal is to keep them flying as long as we can given the MAX and NEO issues. I would go into the PW GTF stuff, but that's kinda a legal thing. It's not pretty.

We are not interested in ANY of Spirits jets. We've had our experiences, especially the 73 Fleet with the Lion Air jets. We are pretty much done with buying used jets from other carriers for awhile.

Profit Sharing - we are expecting slightly lower earnings Q4. Expect PS to be less this time than last years'. But not by much.

Presenters were very upper management of Tech Ops, Flight Ops and our "HQ" (I think you know who they are, I'm not naming names, but they are very high up the food chain).

DELTA is doing strong financially, we are still #1 out there, yes UAL is getting close, but our folks are aware and have some additional stuff in the quiver to pull out that UAL won't expect. I wouldn't say they are flippant about UAL, but they don't seem too concerned about them. The whole financial briefing was good, it was nice to hear how solid the air line is now and going into the future.

In some respects it was sobering presentation - especially how right now our growth is hamstrung by lack of aircraft being delivered (we're not alone here, UAL is in the same boat, they just don't admit it publicly), but overall we are on solid footing and the upper, very upper management has good plans for us as an air line. Some other interesting things presented as well, but I'll have to wait to release that info.

Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo

In all my years here I've never figured out this whole "LCA said" thing. Your average run of the mill knuckle dragging LCA most likely doesn't have the full picture. The leads for each fleet will be in the meetings like I went to, but no one else from standards. There's lots of stuff that is corporate knowledge we don't want out there. That's why I post things that I know will not be "problematic". I think many LCA's sometimes inject some personal bias in what they tell you out there. I can't say for certain, but that is my guess. Yes at the standards meetings the corporate guys come in and give presentations, however it's not like the ones that happen in the exclusive offices on the 4th.

Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo

JFC, no I'm not getting them confused.

Presently they're actually called 'CHIEF STANDARDS CAPTAIN". For decades they were called "Fleet XXX Lead Line Check Pilot". Then they were called "Chief Line Check Pilot" You morons will parse they most freakin' insignificant stuff here. You know what I meant.

Screw it. Done with this. No more info. Have fun. I stopped posting on the Fleets thread, I'm done here too.

Good day.

Originally Posted by Xray678

yeah pick up your marbles and go home. I’ll keep getting info from my chief standards captain. Oh excuse me Chief Standards Captain. And I’ve been in standards here for over 25 years including my time as a AQFO. They have always been called CLCP or CSC in that time. So maybe “decades ago is accurate, but well before the time of most people here.