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Old 04-04-2022 | 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by OpsCheckOK
Can anyone shed light on what the NJ to JFK commute would be like? It takes me about 40 minutes to EWR on I78 and I know that JFK could only be 1.5 hrs in good conditions. I’m just wondering if anyone can tell me how long it took for it to get “old.” Granted, it would probably only have to be done a few times per week max with the 2hr callout from the closest NYC airport.

I currently leave 2 hours for my PHL commute gone/parking/shuttle/gate for a ULCC. Just making my list of pros and cons. (Yes, one pro will be “it’s not a ULCC.”)
It’s not amazing, but plenty do it. Caveat is that flying shifts as network needs it to, but on the 737 there are currently a good % of EWR-based trips you could bid for if you’re on that fleet.
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Old 04-04-2022 | 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotBases
It’s not amazing, but plenty do it. Caveat is that flying shifts as network needs it to, but on the 737 there are currently a good % of EWR-based trips you could bid for if you’re on that fleet.
That’s great to know. EWR would be nice. Unfortunately I’d be going from most senior in my class to bottom 30% with the DAL method. Thank you for the great info.
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Old 04-04-2022 | 05:28 AM
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Bid the 737. Those trips are ALWAYS in open time and the 3-days always have a pretty good 24 hour layover (Caribbean, PSP, etc). You’ll be able to grab them, even on reserve.

Also, the short call call-out that you refer to is the exception, not the rule. You’ll average 3 or fewer short call periods a month of 9 hours or less and almost never get used (much less get a very short-fused call out).

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Old 04-04-2022 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by flyinthrew
Bid the 737. Those trips are ALWAYS in open time and the 3-days always have a pretty good 24 hour layover (Caribbean, PSP, etc). You’ll be able to grab them, even on reserve.

Also, the short call call-out that you refer to is the exception, not the rule. You’ll average 3 or fewer short call periods a month of 9 hours or less and almost never get used (much less get a very short-fused call out).



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Thanks for that! And this is all tremendously helpful info. It’s nice to see positives on APC. I am truly lucky not to have to “commute” with the exception of getting in the car for a few hours. Thanks again.
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Old 04-04-2022 | 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by OpsCheckOK
That’s great to know. EWR would be nice. Unfortunately I’d be going from most senior in my class to bottom 30% with the DAL method. Thank you for the great info.
You’re in an airline pilot fantasy land if you’re based in NYC and driving to work at Delta. I live an hour from Newark and an hour and a half from Kennedy/LGA. I’ve always bid reserve and go to the grocery store and the playground with my kid on shortcall. Newark flying can switch up fleet wise but right now a lot of 737 flying and it goes junior because commuters hate EWR.
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Old 04-04-2022 | 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by OpsCheckOK
That’s great to know. EWR would be nice. Unfortunately I’d be going from most senior in my class to bottom 30% with the DAL method. Thank you for the great info.
NYC 737 is perpetually junior and understaffed, so just need some positive vibes and there’s a good chance you can line it up.
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Old 04-05-2022 | 08:10 AM
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Follow up, so then if I’m considering moving to base and buying, Jersey is a viable plan? I’m not sure where else I could afford to live.

Would it be painful/long to commute via public transportation to JFK from NJ transit?
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Old 04-05-2022 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Jdub2
Follow up, so then if I’m considering moving to base and buying, Jersey is a viable plan? I’m not sure where else I could afford to live.

Would it be painful/long to commute via public transportation to JFK from NJ transit?
Lots of our NY pilots also live in PA. They can meet the required drive times from most of Eastern PA.
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Old 04-05-2022 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Lots of our NY pilots also live in PA. They can meet the required drive times from most of Eastern PA.
yeah that’s me. Across the river from Trenton. Great place to live. 1 hour to Newark 1:25-1:30 no traffic to Kennedy/LaGuardia. Very painless and doable.
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Old 04-05-2022 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Jdub2
Follow up, so then if I’m considering moving to base and buying, Jersey is a viable plan? I’m not sure where else I could afford to live.

Would it be painful/long to commute via public transportation to JFK from NJ transit?
NJ Transit to Penn, LIRR to Jamaica, AirTrain to JFK. It’s not impossible but it’s a lot of pieces aligning properly. Best bet is getting 737 and hoping network keeps the chunk of 73 pairings there. I don’t see it changing, but we’ve all said that before!

But yes, there are plenty of guys who live in NJ and deal with JFK when they need to!
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