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Old 01-14-2024, 08:38 PM
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why *should* it change? SSN works fine
Because SSN has no relevance to seniority. Age does. Age, almost by definition, IS seniority. If you are older, you are “more senior.”

That why in the military age breaks the tie on who outranks whom when all other factors are equal.
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Old 01-14-2024, 08:51 PM
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Seniority should be the number of hours you've blocked for the company. More block = better seniority.
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Old 01-14-2024, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 13pro View Post
Because SSN has no relevance to seniority. Age does. Age, almost by definition, IS seniority. If you are older, you are “more senior.”

That why in the military age breaks the tie on who outranks whom when all other factors are equal.
But only within a class…that seems strange. If age is so important, we should use it to determine seniority even outside of those confines. But we don’t. Because age is not seniority.

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Old 01-15-2024, 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 13pro View Post
Because SSN has no relevance to seniority. Age does. Age, almost by definition, IS seniority. If you are older, you are “more senior.”

That why in the military age breaks the tie on who outranks whom when all other factors are equal.
Nope. We should use height.

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Old 01-15-2024, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ohaiyo View Post
Seniority should be the number of hours you've blocked for the company. More block = better seniority.
Absolutely not. Don't even joke about that. All it shows is a lack of wisdom when senior people are supposed to be more wise.
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Old 01-15-2024, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by OOfff View Post
But only within a class…that seems strange. If age is so important, we should use it to determine seniority even outside of those confines. But we don’t. Because age is not seniority.
I was a huge beneficiary of in class seniority determined by your SSN. It’s bizarre we don’t go by age. We don’t determine age outside those confines because the date of hire isn’t equal. You’re making an apples to oranges comparison.
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I was a huge beneficiary of in class seniority determined by your SSN. It’s bizarre we don’t go by age. We don’t determine age outside those confines because the date of hire isn’t equal. You’re making an apples to oranges comparison.
age is as arbitrary as any other metric. I see no reason to change from a completely random system like we have now
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Old 01-15-2024, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN View Post
I was a huge beneficiary of in class seniority determined by your SSN. It’s bizarre we don’t go by age. We don’t determine age outside those confines because the date of hire isn’t equal. You’re making an apples to oranges comparison.
Funny thing, in my class I would have been exactly the same if age or SSN. Just found that amusing, that’s all.
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Old 01-15-2024, 07:53 AM
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age is as arbitrary as any other metric. I see no reason to change from a completely random system like we have now
Age isn't arbitrary, the oldest person has the least time left, so they get to go first in the class. It's a minor difference, but once in awhile, one number makes all the difference.

It probably wouldn't have changed my position much in my class.
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Old 01-15-2024, 07:56 AM
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Age isn't arbitrary, the oldest person has the least time left, so they get to go first in the class. It's a minor difference, but once in awhile, one number makes all the difference.

It probably wouldn't have changed my position much in my class.
but they have less time left than the most junior person in the class ahead of them. It’s just as arbitrary to make class dates a week apart inviolable but honor age above everything else.
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