Trip quality? Ouch
08-09-2021 | 08:34 AM
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Do you have access to SkyHub? Because coincidently there is a similar discussion there I just stumbled onto. I probably can't/shouldn't post names but the head crew resources guy (good guy btw) has said in a post that shorter trips are less costly than longer trips according to their analysis.
08-09-2021 | 08:42 AM
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He keeps saying stuff like that, and that More/smaller AE’s are better too. I agree with your assessment he’s a good guy, so that leaves one possibility: his bosses don’t care and/or aren’t willing to push back on network or marketing making our lives miserable for an extra penny or two. THAT is what I find so difficult to swallow, and goes against every fiber of my training and experience prior to coming here. Zero analysis for how much pain that very slight “efficiency” costs the rest of us.
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08-14-2021 | 06:40 AM
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True, but, the irony is Delta hires people who are screened to be the folks who make it work.
Yes, easier, maybe better, to shut the cockpit door while repeating "not my job" but that does not describe most Delta employees. American is full of them. That's the difference.
Guess my point is also, we are NOT defenseless. Rotations fatiguing? We got that covered. Most pilots had found ways out of that rotation and me (hard working and stupid) was in the 20%.
Yes, easier, maybe better, to shut the cockpit door while repeating "not my job" but that does not describe most Delta employees. American is full of them. That's the difference.
Guess my point is also, we are NOT defenseless. Rotations fatiguing? We got that covered. Most pilots had found ways out of that rotation and me (hard working and stupid) was in the 20%.
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08-15-2021 | 08:45 AM
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08-15-2021 | 09:03 AM
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Ok, I took that as a compliment. Maybe not intended that way. Good on them for finding a way out. That’s what I would do. No way I’d do a few of these trips I’ve seen lately.
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08-15-2021 | 01:10 PM
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I'm with rooster on this. Definitely self deprecating humor aimed at himself (he's the only one stupid enough to get stuck flying the trip). Seems like you're quite the sensitive one!
08-15-2021 | 03:42 PM
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08-16-2021 | 05:46 AM
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So what are some techniques for getting out of a rotation? I see even somewhat junior pilots in my category that drop all of their trips and just pick up broken trips all month long. How do they do it? How do you manage to get rid of a four day trip over a weekend? Im not talking about bidding Mon-Fri trips and then PD them. They don't APD, PD, IVD, or sickout yet somehow every month they do it. Is there a swap with the pot trick?
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