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Old 03-31-2022, 03:53 AM
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I probably run a 50/50 average over many years of commuting. It depends on a variety of factors. Mostly I change because a regular shirt is more comfortable. Most people still know your a pilot if you just toss on a sweater or change shirts. Pilot pants, pilot shoes, crew luggage, stickers, bag tags, hat, I’d, ect.. .. Your not fooling anyone.
On the subject of a partial uniform I believe that only applies if you want to drink. You can’t ask for a adult beverage if you are wearing any part of the uniform. This has bit pilots in the past.
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Old 03-31-2022, 04:14 AM
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I wear it in case I get a rando, don't want to have to take my shoes, belt, watch, phone, EFB, and laptop out and put them in bins. Also don't want TSA confiscating my toothpaste, etc.
Don’t we just go through precheck if we get rando’d? But yes, I see understand point. I usually just put on the pullover after TSA though, as others have said.


Not a bad idea. But I just avoid doing anything that would be newsworthy while in the cabin... pretty much just eat, drink, read, or sleep. I guess if somebody tries to hijack the plane, then I'll be on the news. Other than that, low profile. I don't photograph or video-tape anything in the cabin.
As do I. It also prevents people asking me questions about flights, gates, terminals, etc.

It’s obviously a technique, but one I prefer for many reasons. Plus, being a Deltoid it allows me to take off the hat and put it in the bag, which is 50%+ of the reason.
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Old 03-31-2022, 04:21 AM
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The majority of the arguments here boil down to A) you're a chump if you wear a uniform and B) it's not that bad and has some advantages to wear it but you do you. I don't know why the A group is clutching their pearls.
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Originally Posted by CBreezy View Post
The majority of the arguments here boil down to A) you're a chump if you wear a uniform and B) it's not that bad and has some advantages to wear it but you do you. I don't know why the A group is clutching their pearls.
Well you sure see the arguments through some biased lenses. If you were to reverse the groups your summation would be just as accurate.

Nice confirmation bias.

"Clutching pearls" is an example of what I'm talking about......it is intentionally incendiary...I must assume on purpose?
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Old 03-31-2022, 05:00 AM
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Well you sure see the arguments through some biased lenses. If you were to reverse the groups your summation would be just as accurate.

Nice confirmation bias.

"Clutching pearls" is an example of what I'm talking about......it is intentionally incendiary...I must assume on purpose?
Yes. It was on purpose. And I say this as someone who is about 70/30 uniform to civilian. I don't have a problem with anyone commuting however they like.
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Old 03-31-2022, 05:03 AM
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I dont videotape women. Worst i ever did was put on game of thrones episode and i found a 6 year old boy trying to watch through the seat cracks during a horrifying scene. I once had a woman hit me in a car on the way to work who couldnt wait for her big delta lawsuit becasue she saw i was in uniforn driving to work. I get there early. I iron. I take a little candy from the bucket in ops.
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worked too long to lose my job from a viral video. This one is important, i dont trust the passengers to assume the best out of us when there are moments to become internet famous.
I watched it again, and showed my wife to get a female opinion. The dude is sleazy for doing it, but no way would I fire him over it, my wife is pretty conservative and she shrugged her shoulder and said he’s just a pervy old dude, hardly out of the ordinary.
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Old 03-31-2022, 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Eddiewouldgo;[url=tel:3397445
3397445[/url]]If you commute in uniform you can consider yourself a tool. Maybe you just want others to see your flight standards lanyard and worship you.
TIC or did you have a bad line check experience?
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Originally Posted by bababouey View Post
I watched it again, and showed my wife to get a female opinion. The dude is sleazy for doing it, but no way would I fire him over it, my wife is pretty conservative and she shrugged her shoulder and said he’s just a pervy old dude, hardly out of the ordinary.
I mean- i think he gets fired and gets his job back after a little work from the union. I hope for none of it. I really dont like what the video shows, and its nothing i would consider doing. I cant help seeing what that pilot is doing and wondering what the hell hes doing, but i hate getting judgy with a video.

I know this isnt fair, but it might be humorous- i think youve got a better chance of being found naked in the woods with just a watch on and keeping your career, than being in your clothes, taping a woman from behind. Dont do either. (This is a repurposed pinnacle joke from 10 years ago and the watch guy has a great career. I would hope he wouldnt chris rock slap me for bringing it up for comedy purposes)
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Old 03-31-2022, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by tcco94 View Post
I commute in uniform to get through KCM as well. Then throw a adidas half zip on and hat goes in the bag. But I wouldn’t say my prime reason is because I want to cover myself up from doing this or something else stupid. I just don’t want everyone staring at me 24:7 so I can watch ESPN on the seat back in peace lol
This is exactly what guys mean by DH out of uniform. You just put a half zip on...10 seconds. Full uniform is under half zip for KCM and all the other reasons guys give to travel in uniform. And for those who don't want to wear the hat, half zip mitigates that problem.

still haven't heard a good reason to commute or DH in full uniform, vice uniform under a half zip. Maybe we are wrong...open to discussion as to why we should?? Change our minds!!

BTW...I heard of a guy who went to Goodwill and bought a gray half zip with a life insurance logo on it!! Lol!! Never had any issues on planes as a pax

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Old 03-31-2022, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by redblueskies View Post

I've found over the years very few reasons to be identifiable outside of the cockpit and many reasons not to. I know some just love to don the Liberace-esque Delta version of a pilot uniform and strut around to show people how impressed they are with themselves, but I think it's very prudent for those of us with some modesty and no delusions of grandeur to stay incognito as much as possible. Our uniforms should be updated to reflect these modern day threats.
If Pilots are to be "brand ambassadors" then I think the policy should be to NOT wear the uniform anywhere but around or on the flight deck.

Mickey Mouse is often referenced by our well-intentioned former Disney Exec who manages such things, but I've never seen Mickey standing in line to go to the bathroom at Disney World, or sleeping in a chair during three hour break.
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