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03-30-2022 | 02:23 PM

#121

Buck Rogers

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Quote:

Originally Posted by King Bear

I understand what you’re saying, but I’m pretty sure Delta made this decision without any input or concern about this forum or similar SM platforms.

Has Delta made a decision?

BTW I wasn't trivilizing anything. Just seems union protections are/should be stronger than what some here think should happen because his actions aggrieve them. "But...but, I have daughters, and my wife!!!"

03-30-2022 | 02:29 PM

#122

Thunder Rooster

Line Holder

Joined: Sep 2021

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I travel to work in my uniform since that one time I forget my tie and epaulettes at home because I wasn't wearing them. Had to fly whole trip in a white shirt. Now I can't forget them if they are on. Plus like everyone said above. Kcm, gate agents etc. I've yet to have anyone try to strike up a convo. Maybe because I don't give them a chance and put in ear buds and watch my iPad.

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03-30-2022 | 02:33 PM

#123

Eddiewouldgo

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If you commute in uniform you can consider yourself a tool. Maybe you just want others to see your flight standards lanyard and worship you.

03-30-2022 | 02:36 PM

#124

Breadcream

Stands to be Corrected

Joined: Mar 2018

Posts: 323

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From: C-17 / 7ER

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eddiewouldgo

If you commute in uniform you can consider yourself a tool. Maybe you just want others to see your flight standards lanyard and worship you.

Maybe not though.

03-30-2022 | 02:38 PM

#125

rickair7777

Prime Minister/Moderator

Joined: Jan 2006

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From: Engines Turn or People Swim

Quote:

Originally Posted by notEnuf

I think the video is just as fraught with indiscretions. Covertly videoing a crew member for what purpose? This could be a security issue. Trying to get security stuff from his kindle or phone.

I don’t see anything prosecutable. I just spent a week at the beach and saw way more photo taking.

Yeah, maybe nothing technically illegal. Although IIRC some jurisdictions have laws about "upskirt" photography.

But I think he should be, and probably will be, canned.

03-30-2022 | 02:40 PM

#126

rickair7777

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From: Engines Turn or People Swim

Quote:

Originally Posted by TED74

Legal arguments aside, I don’t trust the decision-making or the SA of this Captain. 54 year old father of grown kid(s) (as reported on Reddit…unverified) should know better - particularly in uniform with another passenger in the same row. What other risks is he willing to take for what other motivations? I’m a little spooked that this fellow is/was presumably making decisions for the crew and passengers of our air line. Any one of our flight attendants or first officers who wants to will know the identity of this knucklehead and have plenty of justification to refuse working with him. For you folks who don’t see a problem here…thanks for reaffirming my decision never to go to law school.

Yup. Dude needs to working the night security guard shift at a warehouse, where he can surf porn on his phone to his heart's content without involving other people.

03-30-2022 | 02:44 PM

#127

rickair7777

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From: Engines Turn or People Swim

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolf424

Yikes.

This is bad, regardless of his employer. I hope he gets the help he needs.

He needs help out the door. Not every bad or illegal choice is a "disease" or a result of historical injustice.

03-30-2022 | 02:51 PM

#128

rickair7777

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From: Engines Turn or People Swim

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eddiewouldgo

If you commute in uniform you can consider yourself a tool. Maybe you just want others to see your flight standards lanyard and worship you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaxsurf

This.

Wearing the uniform as a nonrev/deadhead/whatever is stupid in this day and age. Sure, you can control yourself and be sure you’re not doing anything abnormal, but you can’t control others, especially those with an agenda and a camera. Why risk it?

I wear it in case I get a rando, don't want to have to take my shoes, belt, watch, phone, EFB, and laptop out and put them in bins. Also don't want TSA confiscating my toothpaste, etc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaxsurf

A pullover takes 2 minutes to take out of your nav bag and put on, it’s worth the protection.

Not a bad idea. But I just avoid doing anything that would be newsworthy while in the cabin... pretty much just eat, drink, read, or sleep. I guess if somebody tries to hijack the plane, then I'll be on the news. Other than that, low profile. I don't photograph or video-tape anything in the cabin.

03-30-2022 | 03:07 PM

#129

King Bear

On Reserve

Joined: Jul 2020

Posts: 8

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck Rogers

Has Delta made a decision?

Haven’t seen anything publicly, but post #76 hints that the company has. I’m in agreement about the benefits of union protection. We’ll see how it plays out though.