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04-08-2026 | 11:21 AM

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FangsF15

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Originally Posted by Frank Grimes

I agree with your whole post. You consider only TAFB as working, I consider LC/SC working as well. It's not time off.

For a local, hard disagree. If I’m mowing my lawn or on my couch on SC or unused LC, I’m 100% not working.

Sure, you can’t take a trip across the country, so it’s not the same as time off. But as a looongtime Res bidder, unused Res sure as heck ain’t work. Heck, by your own logic, your ‘brag’ at only flying 4 days this year (or whatever it is) is total malarkey. You’ve ‘worked’ 17 days a month…

04-08-2026 | 11:43 AM

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Rvr330

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We need to reduce number of on call days this next contract.

04-08-2026 | 11:52 AM

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SVCTA

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Originally Posted by Rvr330

We need to reduce number of on call days this next contract.

Seconded. that was on the survey as a question if I remember correctly. And if they’re going to use people for every available reserve day then we most definitely need to rein them in.

04-08-2026 | 11:55 AM

#12134

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Originally Posted by Frank Grimes

I agree with your whole post. You consider only TAFB as working, I consider LC/SC working as well. It's not time off.

Uh, no. SC...perhaps. But with our 18 hour LC (a great improvement brought to you by our negotiators last time around) if I wake up in the morning, and I am on LC, I know that I have the rest of that day off. I can even drink beer. Working? Hardly.

04-08-2026 | 12:04 PM

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m3113n1a1

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Originally Posted by SVCTA

Seconded. that was on the survey as a question if I remember correctly. And if they’re going to use people for every available reserve day then we most definitely need to rein them in.

I believe Southwest gets 15 days off on reserve.

04-08-2026 | 12:22 PM

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HockeyGuy

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Originally Posted by SVCTA

Seconded. that was on the survey as a question if I remember correctly. And if they’re going to use people for every available reserve day then we most definitely need to rein them in.

Good thing an improvement to reserve rules was in our contract openers! /s

04-08-2026 | 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank Grimes

I flew 2 days in Jan, 1 day if Feb (GS), and 2 days in Mar. How many days did you fly on your days off?

IMO, the company doesn't like PB days because of money, not productivity. If a guy is picking up a trip on his days off, they are getting voluntary productivity out of him.
Just look at the PB washing decision by the company, purely financial. It will cause lower productivity by:
1. Having guys on vacation when they would have been willing to pick up trips.
2. Having guys not pick up extra time due to the loss of PB day washing.
(Unless you think they were too obtuse to realize their decision would lower productivity)

I fall in the LC/SC Days are work camp, but I'm struggling to see how you don't understand what others are saying here about PBs.

Also, if you only flew 2 days in Jan, etc you must be in a massively overstaffed cat. Flying that little on reserve in most of the cats in the Co is just not possible right now.

I agree that hawking for GS/QSs on X-Days can be tiresome, but getting your days off back is a huge QOL enhancer for many reserve pilots. Especially in understaffed cats where you know you'll work every LC day otherwise, it results in fewer hours flown, fewer days flown, and higher pay at the end of the month.

04-08-2026 | 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by HockeyGuy

Good thing an improvement to reserve rules was in our contract openers! /s

“Enhance schedule flexibility” could easily include improvements to reserve rules. But since 80+% of the pilot group doesn’t sit reserve…

04-08-2026 | 01:10 PM

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Whoopsmybad

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Originally Posted by dmhpilot

“Enhance schedule flexibility” could easily include improvements to reserve rules. But since 80+% of the pilot group doesn’t sit reserve…

Also quality of life enhancements. Just because our intentionally very vague “openers” didn’t say it does not mean it isn’t an ask.
Remember that the green book has had reserve rotation guarantee for this contract in it. I would say that falls under tha umbrella too.

04-08-2026 | 01:11 PM

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Frank Grimes

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Originally Posted by FangsF15

Not everyone is a local at this company. LC/SC is not time off (like you said). It's a different kind of work, but it's still not time off.

And I know I worked 17 days a month, that was my whole point to the OP. PB days didn't generate more time off for him like the OP opined. And he thought that flying GS on his days off generated less flying time which is not always the case, that's why I post my flying time so he could compare (which he said he would love to do), not to "brag".