Originally Posted by Frank Grimes

Working 2 days on your off days and then having 1 LC vs me working 3 LC days doesn't get you more time off than me. Still both working 3 days.

If you're talking about flying trips, I might get called on a 3 day trip and end up flying more days than you, but I might also not get called and and as a result fly 2 days less than you.

As I said in my last post, I haven't flown a trip in the last month and you have, so how are you flying less than me because of GS/QS?

Originally Posted by widget59

Scheduling can take the trip from a reserve and give it to a short call is if the short call pilot said they could get there quicker then you. Another reason would be if they reached out to both of you at the same time and the short call pilot finally acknowledged. Reroute they can do for any reason they see fit. I've been at the airport before when the rerouted crew was also at the gate. Scheduling sent me home and let the reroute crew performed the flight. They can noop the flight for any reason but I found it mostly is because they weren't able to get a first officer in time or even flight attendants. All this worth 2 hours of suit up pay which is applied towards reserve guarantee. The only time it would benefit you is if you were over guarantee for the month and even then only 2 hours!

Anytime I've accepted a flight that reports in less than 2 hours, I am very concerned they might pull my flight. I even had one pulled as I was leaving the house, scheduling called and said they were giving it to a short call reserve. When I was back at home, scheduling calls again and says they couldn't get hold of the short call pilot and they wanted to know if I still wanted the trip. I asked what prevents you from pulling it from me again and the scheduler had the nerve to remind me that this was inverse assignment and it was not a proffer!

Don't forget this also applies to any out of base reserve awards. You could be jump seating to a different base and they may pull the trip from you. It could even result you being stranded the night and having to get a hotel on your own dime. Again, no rotation guarantee.

Originally Posted by widget59

The bottom line and this must be in the next contract, anytime they noop or pull an assignment or award from a reserve, the reserve pilot must get paid rotation guarantee just like a line holder gets.

Originally Posted by Frank Grimes

Working 2 days on your off days and then having 1 LC vs me working 3 LC days doesn't get you more time off than me. Still both working 3 days.

If you're talking about flying trips, I might get called on a 3 day trip and end up flying more days than you, but I might also not get called and and as a result fly 2 days less than you.

As I said in my last post, I haven't flown a trip in the last month and you have, so how are you flying less than me because of GS/QS?

Originally Posted by Verdell

Trying to wrap my head around this post.

Imagine for a moment you're NOT in a category that's that's breezing through months of RES unused (which is most lately, I would wager.) And are all but guaranteed to be assigned unbroken 3-4-5 day trips on your 3-4-5-6 day blocks. Picking up broken GS/QS on X-days and busting up those stretches of LC goes a LONG way towards making your remaining LC days less usable for unbroken trips.

You're correct to say you're not "gaining" X-days by flying GS/QS over X-days (other than the 9 hours), but in terms of TAFB, flying broken trips vs unbroken trips almost always results in less TAFB.

And then of course there's the pay aspect.

Originally Posted by SVCTA

I'm sure someone in this group will point out the flaws to it, but I think that we should remove the words "regular" and "reserve" throughout the PWA any time they appear before the word "pilot." The notion that the method of getting assigned flying somehow offers one pilot a certain set of guarantees but not a different pilot who is the same in every other respect is odd to me.

Originally Posted by dmhpilot

Same with “assignment” and “award”. It’s crap that getting assigned something early on the first day of long call only needs one commute flight when YSing the same trip needs two.

Originally Posted by smellson

I would love to compare schedules.....the company is desperate to remove payback days, why do you think that is? Do you think it's because guys getting payback days are working more?!

Originally Posted by Frank Grimes

(Unless you think they were too obtuse to realize their decision would lower productivity)

Originally Posted by Frank Grimes

I flew 2 days in Jan, 1 day if Feb (GS), and 2 days in Mar. How many days did you fly on your days off?


IMO, the company doesn't like PB days because of money, not productivity. If a guy is picking up a trip on his days off, they are getting voluntary productivity out of him.
Just look at the PB washing decision by the company, purely financial. It will cause lower productivity by:
1. Having guys on vacation when they would have been willing to pick up trips.
2. Having guys not pick up extra time due to the loss of PB day washing.
(Unless you think they were too obtuse to realize their decision would lower productivity)