Any "Latest & Greatest about Delta?" Part 2
06-28-2025 | 12:11 PM
#8331
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Anyone else tired of Delta just completely melting down every IROP? I understand this was a big hail event and there is of course going to be major disruption, but the way things melt down completely here is embarrassing. Why do the phone lines always go down? Isn't dispatching via unrecorded cell phone a FAR violation? Why does it take hours and hours to get through to crew accomodations to then wait even longer to not be assigned a hotel? Why haven't we invested in better technology or hired more schedulers for IROPS? Instead, flight ops has been blowing money on failed uniforms and obsessing over APU usage and hat wearing, tracking commutes, and harassing people for sick calls.
The amount of unnecessary money lost during these IROPS dwarfs any possible savings from not running APUs and roasting our passengers.
The amount of unnecessary money lost during these IROPS dwarfs any possible savings from not running APUs and roasting our passengers.
This is also the consequence of having only one mega hub.
06-28-2025 | 12:24 PM
#8332
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06-28-2025 | 12:35 PM
#8333
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Anyone else tired of Delta just completely melting down every IROP? I understand this was a big hail event and there is of course going to be major disruption, but the way things melt down completely here is embarrassing. Why do the phone lines always go down? Isn't dispatching via unrecorded cell phone a FAR violation? Why does it take hours and hours to get through to crew accomodations to then wait even longer to not be assigned a hotel? Why haven't we invested in better technology or hired more schedulers for IROPS? Instead, flight ops has been blowing money on failed uniforms and obsessing over APU usage and hat wearing, tracking commutes, and harassing people for sick calls.
The amount of unnecessary money lost during these IROPS dwarfs any possible savings from not running APUs and roasting our passengers.
The amount of unnecessary money lost during these IROPS dwarfs any possible savings from not running APUs and roasting our passengers.
We also have tools like VAS, silver slips, or premium PBS rotations to protect reserve manning well in advance, without tying up phone lines while playing catch-up with coverage, but the company has chosen not to pay for these.
06-28-2025 | 12:35 PM
#8334
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Anyone else tired of Delta just completely melting down every IROP? I understand this was a big hail event and there is of course going to be major disruption, but the way things melt down completely here is embarrassing. Why do the phone lines always go down? Isn't dispatching via unrecorded cell phone a FAR violation? Why does it take hours and hours to get through to crew accomodations to then wait even longer to not be assigned a hotel? Why haven't we invested in better technology or hired more schedulers for IROPS? Instead, flight ops has been blowing money on failed uniforms and obsessing over APU usage and hat wearing, tracking commutes, and harassing people for sick calls.
The amount of unnecessary money lost during these IROPS dwarfs any possible savings from not running APUs and roasting our passengers.
The amount of unnecessary money lost during these IROPS dwarfs any possible savings from not running APUs and roasting our passengers.
06-28-2025 | 12:37 PM
#8335
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We are on the same page. Maybe have the MEC do a forensic accounting and have him repay every dollar stolen since the MEC told people to cease this wage theft.
we are a union shop. Union membership is required as a condition of our employment. I may be mistaken, I believe it’s in the PWA and the FOM. He gets 8’d and he’s unemployed. Paying back several years of ill gotten gains, may be punishment enough & discourage others as well.
and why not public shaming? I haven’t looked him up yet… publish his name, cell & email address here.
the above doesn’t work & he does it again…. Yes… 8’d & gone.
we are a union shop. Union membership is required as a condition of our employment. I may be mistaken, I believe it’s in the PWA and the FOM. He gets 8’d and he’s unemployed. Paying back several years of ill gotten gains, may be punishment enough & discourage others as well.
and why not public shaming? I haven’t looked him up yet… publish his name, cell & email address here.
the above doesn’t work & he does it again…. Yes… 8’d & gone.
06-28-2025 | 12:44 PM
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We are on the same page. Maybe have the MEC do a forensic accounting and have him repay every dollar stolen since the MEC told people to cease this wage theft.
we are a union shop. Union membership is required as a condition of our employment. I may be mistaken, I believe it’s in the PWA and the FOM. He gets 8’d and he’s unemployed. Paying back several years of ill gotten gains, may be punishment enough & discourage others as well.
and why not public shaming? I haven’t looked him up yet… publish his name, cell & email address here.
the above doesn’t work & he does it again…. Yes… 8’d & gone.
we are a union shop. Union membership is required as a condition of our employment. I may be mistaken, I believe it’s in the PWA and the FOM. He gets 8’d and he’s unemployed. Paying back several years of ill gotten gains, may be punishment enough & discourage others as well.
and why not public shaming? I haven’t looked him up yet… publish his name, cell & email address here.
the above doesn’t work & he does it again…. Yes… 8’d & gone.
06-28-2025 | 12:59 PM
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Anyone else tired of Delta just completely melting down every IROP? I understand this was a big hail event and there is of course going to be major disruption, but the way things melt down completely here is embarrassing. Why do the phone lines always go down? Isn't dispatching via unrecorded cell phone a FAR violation? Why does it take hours and hours to get through to crew accomodations to then wait even longer to not be assigned a hotel? Why haven't we invested in better technology or hired more schedulers for IROPS? Instead, flight ops has been blowing money on failed uniforms and obsessing over APU usage and hat wearing, tracking commutes, and harassing people for sick calls.
The amount of unnecessary money lost during these IROPS dwarfs any possible savings from not running APUs and roasting our passengers.
The amount of unnecessary money lost during these IROPS dwarfs any possible savings from not running APUs and roasting our passengers.
06-28-2025 | 01:00 PM
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06-28-2025 | 01:45 PM
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I would guess the net cost of over-staffing 10 months to seamlessly handle 2 hot months is greater than the cost of 12 months running "lean" with the occasional meltdown. They've ran the cost/benefit numbers and this is how they prefer to do things, for years if not decades.
We also have tools like VAS, silver slips, or premium PBS rotations to protect reserve manning well in advance, without tying up phone lines while playing catch-up with coverage, but the company has chosen not to pay for these.
We also have tools like VAS, silver slips, or premium PBS rotations to protect reserve manning well in advance, without tying up phone lines while playing catch-up with coverage, but the company has chosen not to pay for these.
It’s not only the “2 months a year”, it’s also the winter season. Also those 2 months of the year are our most profitable.
06-28-2025 | 02:56 PM
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This is egregious behavior. It must stop. It's obvious this person has an already established relationship with CT/CS (i.e. not their first time doing this). So "education" and a "warning" will fall on deaf ears. This needs to go right to Article 8. The warning was in the Feb 25 MEC alert. This person obviously ignored that "warning" so for me it seems this needs to go right to an Article 8.
This is why we can't have nice things. These people need to be made an example of.
This is why we can't have nice things. These people need to be made an example of.
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