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Old 07-26-2025 | 02:02 AM
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So…. Every weekend now it seems as scheduling is just giving up covering trips? Straight to inverse assignment calls? I counted 6 that were in open time yesterday evening.
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Old 07-26-2025 | 03:27 AM
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Question. What happens if you select a greenslip outside the window, what order do they go in to award? Example, you select it a couple minutes after the window, but they don’t award the slip for another hour or two?
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Old 07-26-2025 | 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by RightSide
Question. What happens if you select a greenslip outside the window, what order do they go in to award? Example, you select it a couple minutes after the window, but they don’t award the slip for another hour or two?
In a nut shell you go after everyone in the batch you were in. So if they blast the whole category then every single pilot who raised their hand or had auto accept in would have to decline the award for it to go to you.
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Old 07-26-2025 | 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
In a nut shell you go after everyone in the batch you were in. So if they blast the whole category then every single pilot who raised their hand or had auto accept in would have to decline the award for it to go to you.
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Old 07-26-2025 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by RightSide
So…. Every weekend now it seems as scheduling is just giving up covering trips? Straight to inverse assignment calls? I counted 6 that were in open time yesterday evening.
Seems to be an issue indeed. I’m going to have a few things to suggest in the contract survey. Hopefully we can do something to address these issues. More significant penalties than 23 m 7 to try to ensure proper trip coverage. Sadly, after 18 years, I’m not going to hold my breath!
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Old 07-26-2025 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Tanker1497
Seems to be an issue indeed. I’m going to have a few things to suggest in the contract survey. Hopefully we can do something to address these issues. More significant penalties than 23 m 7 to try to ensure proper trip coverage. Sadly, after 18 years, I’m not going to hold my breath!
The problem is that the company isn’t complying with the relatively harsh penalty that already exists (triple pay). Management would be happy to let ALPA negotiate away auto accept, in exchange for an even greater penalty that they still won’t comply with.

We can’t take the bait. Our first focus should be on bringing the 23.M.7 enforcement rate as close to 100% as possible — via automation.
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Old 07-26-2025 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ancman
The problem is that the company isn’t complying with the relatively harsh penalty that already exists (triple pay). Management would be happy to let ALPA negotiate away auto accept, in exchange for an even greater penalty that they still won’t comply with.

We can’t take the bait. Our first focus should be on bringing the 23.M.7 enforcement rate as close to 100% as possible — via automation.
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Old 07-26-2025 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ancman
The problem is that the company isn’t complying with the relatively harsh penalty that already exists (triple pay). Management would be happy to let ALPA negotiate away auto accept, in exchange for an even greater penalty that they still won’t comply with.

We can’t take the bait. Our first focus should be on bringing the 23.M.7 enforcement rate as close to 100% as possible — via automation.
agree. Don’t fall for it. The company can choose to cover trips with gs as early as they want to. They seem to be purposely prodding the pilot group by waiting until ‘the last minute’ and then pretending to have no choice but to do a mass-blast ia phone call. Alpa skeds has to be all over this.
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Old 07-26-2025 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by tripled
agree. Don’t fall for it. The company can choose to cover trips with gs as early as they want to. They seem to be purposely prodding the pilot group by waiting until ‘the last minute’ and then pretending to have no choice but to do a mass-blast ia phone call. Alpa skeds has to be all over this.
I’d like to see us refuse to cover any premium pay trips outside of PCS and ARCOS.

IA needs to be re-written. It’s a dated part of our contract that no longer applies. Just about every single time IA is being used, the company is breaking the contract. They might claim the 23.M.7 loophole, but that was supposed to be used for extraordinary circumstances. Bypassing GS coverage is not extraordinary. We’re extremely greedy as a group which is fine, but we’re going down a bad path with the current free-for-all.
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Old 07-26-2025 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by saltbae
instead of being 99% and stuck on reserve with no weekends off.. they just snipe trips from open time on their off days, yes. Some do
Those pilots do not make extra pay, they need to pick up trips on Fridays or the weekends for currency not pay.

Project pilots are 85 hours, tech pilots 95, and Chiefs are 105. They do not get more.
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