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Old 05-31-2022, 07:02 AM
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You’re really saying that Richard Anderson was less of a leader than Ed? Seriously?
I suspect UGBSM was referencing the other "RA" - Ron Allen, who is a Harvard Business School case study for how not to handle an airline acquisition (PanAm). CNBC loves him though so we have that going for us, which is nice.
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The problem is that many times what looks good on paper doesn't actually translate into something good operationally in the real world. Part of the reason Richard was a better CEO than Ed is because Richard was much more of an operations guy, or at least surrounded himself with operations people, and made decisions that generally turned out ok in the field. Ed is a banker...all he cares about is what a calculator says. The results are out there for everyone to see.
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Originally Posted by FL370esq View Post
I suspect UGBSM was referencing the other "RA" - Ron Allen, who is a Harvard Business School case study for how not to handle an airline acquisition (PanAm). CNBC loves him though so we have that going for us, which is nice.
Oooohhh. Gotcha. Yeah i was here for that piece of sunshine. That makes more sense.
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all he cares about is what a calculator says...
Yeah that is very en vogue right now. Just like the MBA silliness of "lean manufacturing" and its "just in time" nonsense became all the rage in the 90's and early 2000's resulting in a comically fragile fair weather supply chain with a million points of failure, all to harvest that extra zero point something margin, so too is the over reliance on "big data" and spreadsheet models appearing to be operating well beyond their power curve.
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Old 05-31-2022, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by FL370esq View Post
I suspect UGBSM was referencing the other "RA" - Ron Allen, who is a Harvard Business School case study for how not to handle an airline acquisition (PanAm). CNBC loves him though so we have that going for us, which is nice.
LM was at the helm when 9/11 masked his ineptitude. He's on the flop list for sure too.
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Ron Allen was responsible for the Pan Am deal. Yeah he paid too much, but nonetheless it made DAL a global player. That is in no way a defense of his ineptitude, but what has Ed brought us?
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Old 05-31-2022, 09:14 AM
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A laser light focus on improving our ESG score. (Environmental, Social, and Governance)

Which is actually a "thing". Especially the "S".

Like it or not, it's a good bet this is going to become more and more important going forward.

Understand what the ESG is, why it's important, and you'll have a better understanding on some of the very public messaging Delta is engaged in on an almost daily basis.
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Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux View Post
A laser light focus on improving our ESG score. (Environmental, Social, and Governance)

Which is actually a "thing". Especially the "S".

Like it or not, it's a good bet this is going to become more and more important going forward.

Understand what the ESG is, why it's important, and you'll have a better understanding on some of the very public messaging Delta is engaged in on an almost daily basis.
That's interesting because i'm willing to bet that if you ask our High Value Customers how they feel about employees wearing a BLM pin you'd have a strong majority disapprove of it. I've had at least a dozen Diamond Medallions express their disgust with our "social" activities over the past year or so. Haven't had a single one come up and say "i'm so happy to see employees wear a BLM pin". Not to mention all the negative press Delta has received for supporting BLM and then coming out against the Georgia voting bill.

The good thing is that you're finally seeing public figures stand up to corporate wokeism. DeSantis in Florida with Disney is a perfect example.
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Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux View Post
A laser light focus on improving our ESG score. (Environmental, Social, and Governance)

Which is actually a "thing". Especially the "S".

Like it or not, it's a good bet this is going to become more and more important going forward.

Understand what the ESG is, why it's important, and you'll have a better understanding on some of the very public messaging Delta is engaged in on an almost daily basis.
I'm all for ESG, however to be effective with that you first must be an effective corporation that operates well. We used to be an industry leader that carried a brand premium and a respected reputation for reliability. Now... and in the future???
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I have a decent number of gay friends and black friends. Don’t hate me for stereotyping both communities, but they all seem to strongly prefer airlines that don’t cancel their holiday flights.
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