interceptorpilo

How do you figure 16,000? And by when? 12 months - not possible.

Gone Flying

hard disagree, sending out 1,941 furlough letters after the VEOP was run instead of returning those pilots to a position, and waiting until spring of 2021 to return UNAs to the line was one of the worst things that happened as far as staffing goes… and the blame for that rests squarely with management.

had the September 2020 AE placed all pilots back in a category, trained and ready to go, we would not be having nearly as many problems.

Gone Flying

Roughly 13,900 on the list now (including May hires), if we keep hiring 200/ month til next summer like management says that’s another 2,400. Take out 400-500 planned and early retirements and you get pretty close.

DeltaboundRedux

From Forbes:

"Environment. What kind of impact does a company have on the environment? This can include a company’s carbon footprint, toxic chemicals involved in its manufacturing processes and sustainability efforts that make up its supply chain.

Social. How does the company improve its social impact, both within the company and in the broader community? Social factors include everything from LGBTQ+ equality, racial diversity in both the executive suite and staff overall, and inclusion programs and hiring practices. It even looks at how a company advocates for social good in the wider world, beyond its limited sphere of business.

Governance. How does the company’s board and management drive positive change? Governance includes everything from issues surrounding executive pay to diversity in leadership as well as how well that leadership responds to and interacts with shareholders."

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E - Difficult sell for an airline; burning petrol products at high altitudes is our primary business, after all.

S - Explains the DEI hard push; comparatively cheap way to push up the ESG score. Hire a few new positions, issue training memos, do some interviews, fly some flags, issue some pins, etc.

G - Puts some extra qualifiers on who gets leadership and decision making positions. Also, what day-to-day political causes should Delta publicly endorse?

Agree or not, institutional investors are reacting to this ESG score for a variety of reasons. Pretty sure our CEO is well aware of it and has consistently been targeting it for some time. So this has been a focus. (I think)

Is it better than stone cold ruthless capitalism? IDK. Above my paygrade.

ApachePhil

Don’t tell those ETF/Mutual Fund managers and investors that their $400B in assets isn’t about investors and merely brand image/ad campaign.

There has been so much liquidity and dumb money floating around, they devised a way to scrape some their way by creating a bogus metric…kinda like when Patrisse Cullors, co-founder of BLM, said they were surprised at the ridiculous money they received being merely white guilt…ESG is essentially the same.

There is no metric in which to measure ESG…the SEC says so themselves…but they are slow to investigate it so as not to be labeled with all the -isms. And as money flows in and out of those very liquid funds, they get a scrape.

Sputnik

There was a US flag there yesterday.

3 green

That is great news. The last two times I was there doing CQ and covid shot, I did not see it. Maybe I missed it.

Scoop

Really? So Tesla gets bumped down on the ESG score because Elon has gone “rouge” and starts speaking up? ESG is a joke - no firm criteria, all touchy feeling BS. Surely you can not be in favor of this.

If this was legitimate they would publish firm guidelines and the “data” would decide.

Scoop

interceptorpilo

Well first off you said 2000 in the next 12 months and I think that is more likely than 2400 and there are about 440 MANDATORY retirements in the next 12 months. There will likely be closer to 600 -700 or more. The airline typically slows down hiring from November to January so no way I see 2400 in the next 12 months.

JamesBond

Is the scam flag still there?