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06-03-2022, 06:46 AM
#593
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Anyone who wants to see a crazy Frankensteined trip look up 3276 on 31MAY. 
(And no, it's not my trip.) I don't see how that could possibly be legal. 7 days in a row with no 30 hours of rest? And how the heck could someone in CT possibly build this?
(And no, it's not my trip.) I don't see how that could possibly be legal. 7 days in a row with no 30 hours of rest? And how the heck could someone in CT possibly build this?
06-03-2022, 07:07 AM
#594
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Originally Posted by BlueSkies
Anyone who wants to see a crazy Frankensteined trip look up 3276 on 31MAY. (And no, it's not my trip.) I don't see how that could possibly be legal. 7 days in a row with no 30 hours of rest? And how the heck could someone in CT possibly build this?
(And no, it's not my trip.) I don't see how that could possibly be legal. 7 days in a row with no 30 hours of rest? And how the heck could someone in CT possibly build this?
06-03-2022, 07:11 AM
#595
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Originally Posted by BlueSkies
Anyone who wants to see a crazy Frankensteined trip look up 3276 on 31MAY. (And no, it's not my trip.) I don't see how that could possibly be legal. 7 days in a row with no 30 hours of rest? And how the heck could someone in CT possibly build this?
(And no, it's not my trip.) I don't see how that could possibly be legal. 7 days in a row with no 30 hours of rest? And how the heck could someone in CT possibly build this?
06-03-2022, 07:21 AM
#596
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Originally Posted by blue vortex
Its an ATL trip, also need that info to look it up. FYI, before you start any flight duty period, you must look back 168 hours and find 30 hours of rest. What basically makes this trip legal is the fact that it has an early report on the last day and at that moment in time if you go back 168 hours you can find 30 hours rest before the trip starts. Interesting enough if the last day had reported after 1446 base time (EDT in this case) it would not be legal. Nothing prohibiting flying seven days in a row with FAR 117. Just the way the idiots at the FAA wrote it the reg!
06-03-2022, 07:49 AM
#597
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Fatigue
Originally Posted by ApachePhil
Not idiots, scientists. Paid for scientists. They also concluded that flying 9 hours a day is less fatiguing than flying 8 hours a day.
At the end of the day, I owe the passengers a SAFE trip to where they want to go.
We have all been begging the company to make changes and to admit some responsibility for previous in order to move on - crickets.
06-03-2022, 08:35 AM
#598
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Originally Posted by ApachePhil
It is a dup. The original was a 3 day that re-routed into a 7 day for some reserve guy. No telling how many coverage violations involved in this single rotation.
06-03-2022, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by blue vortex
Its an ATL trip, also need that info to look it up. FYI, before you start any flight duty period, you must look back 168 hours and find 30 hours of rest. What basically makes this trip legal is the fact that it has an early report on the last day and at that moment in time if you go back 168 hours you can find 30 hours rest before the trip starts. Interesting enough if the last day had reported after 1446 base time (EDT in this case) it would not be legal. Nothing prohibiting flying seven days in a row with FAR 117. Just the way the idiots at the FAA wrote it the reg!
06-03-2022, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ChazzMMichaels
Where is the stipulation that the lookback only applies to the start of a duty period? I thought it was at any point in time. And at the end of the last day, you can’t get back to 30hrs before the first report. To my knowledge that is not FAR compliant.
Before beginning any reserve or flight duty period a flightcrew member must be given at least 30 consecutive hours free from all duty within the past 168 consecutive hour period.
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