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11-09-2022 | 06:15 AM

#151

capncrunch

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fourpaw

So it would be 6% compounded each yoy?

It’s 18% DOS then 5% & 5%. There is no retro. Plus, it wants to destroy our reserve system and we will be back in negotiations in a couple of years.

Dividing our initial pay bump by the years we’ve been negotiating is not retro, it’s semantics.

While it’s just a trial balloon, its filled with methane.

11-09-2022 | 06:15 AM

#152

BroncoEN

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tunes

This rumor is a management trial balloon

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I’m sure I can speak for not just myself, appreciate when you drop a note periodically. Thanks for the continued comms.

11-09-2022 | 06:32 AM

#153

tcco94

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From: LAX ER

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Originally Posted by igotgummed

I’ll say bye-bye to PB days if they give us PSC. I mean, c’mon, I don’t bid reserve so it doesn’t affect me……just like PSC doesn’t help guys choosing to live in base, right? So what do I care?

It does affect you though as senior pilots will never bid reserve again. Unless you’re a widebody captain who is already mid range seniority.

just to be clear any sniffing of PB day changes, automatic no from me. I also bid a line 80% of the time but not a chance I will EVER give that up

11-09-2022 | 06:44 AM

#154

Tailhookah

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From: Widget Jet

Quote:

Originally Posted by DisMyGamerTag

I think some wear the hat to give the MEC the middle finger. Or they don’t wear the lanyard for that reason.

Dooo masses they are. Solidarity comes in many forms. Snubbing the basic level of support just shows their true nature. Can’t be trusted and should be ostracized.

11-09-2022 | 07:00 AM

#155

Meme In Command

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From: Blue Juice Taste Tester

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tailhookah

Dooo masses they are. Solidarity comes in many forms. Snubbing the basic level of support just shows their true nature. Can’t be trusted and should be ostracized.

Just flew with one of those. Went on an unsolicited monologue after getting dirty looks from a lanyard/no hat CA at the hotel van. His "logic" was: No hat/green lanyard violates FOM, was jaded at DALPA and wanted to give them the middle finger. Hat/lanyard is little kids games.

11-09-2022 | 07:06 AM

#156

bigdaddie

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From: LAX 350 A

Quote:

Originally Posted by igotgummed

I commute but there is only one daily non-stop flight on UA/OO so it doesn't really affect me either. I did the 2-leg PS commute but travelling 500 miles the wrong way sucks. Still, it saved my bacon a couple of times when the roads were closed due to fires on the I-5.

Here’s a concept (flame away): how about we demand PB days AND PS commuting? Negotiating in public amongst ourselves talking about trade-offs is not productive. J.G. Wentworth: “It’s our contract and we want it NOW!”

11-09-2022 | 07:09 AM

#157

bigdaddie

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From: LAX 350 A

Quote:

Originally Posted by capncrunch

cpncrunch,
Retro should be the full new negotiated rate back to 01/01/2020 IMHO. Delta is going to have to open their checkbook on this one even though the first dollar they ever made is velcroed™ to the inside.

Last edited by bigdaddie; 11-09-2022 at 07:15 AM. Reason: added comment

11-09-2022 | 07:10 AM

#158

Farmerengineer

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DisMyGamerTag

I bid reserve off and on. I bid reserve during vacation months like November and December. I can make 110-120 hours easily and hardly work compared to a line.

I will not do that if there are no PB days. It would be financially insane to purposefully bid reserve.

I bid a line 95% of the time. And have had 2 PB days in my career.

So I’m just curious about this.

In your case, if they paid rsv gs same as line holder, wouldn’t you credit 130-140 instead of 110-120? And just not have any PB days?

Depending on intl vs domestic use of PB days. They can be quite valuable as well. I understand that.