Nonstop Negotiations
11-08-2022 | 06:24 PM
#131
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2020-6%
2021-6% (12.4% compounded)
2022-6% (19.1% compounded)
2023-18% (40.5% compounded)
But this rumor is so weak on details who knows what they are really saying. I’m going to wait for NC to actually negotiate for us before jumping to conclusions and negotiating in public.
11-08-2022 | 06:30 PM
#132
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From: Blue Juice Taste Tester
Mathematically,
2020-6%
2021-6% (12.4% compounded)
2022-6% (19.1% compounded)
2023-18% (40.5% compounded)
But this rumor is so weak on details who knows what they are really saying. I’m going to wait for NC to actually negotiate for us before jumping to conclusions and negotiating in public.
2020-6%
2021-6% (12.4% compounded)
2022-6% (19.1% compounded)
2023-18% (40.5% compounded)
But this rumor is so weak on details who knows what they are really saying. I’m going to wait for NC to actually negotiate for us before jumping to conclusions and negotiating in public.
11-08-2022 | 06:39 PM
#134
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From: Scratching my head in the right seat of a Douglas product
Mathematically,
2020-6%
2021-6% (12.4% compounded)
2022-6% (19.1% compounded)
2023-18% (40.5% compounded)
But this rumor is so weak on details who knows what they are really saying. I’m going to wait for NC to actually negotiate for us before jumping to conclusions and negotiating in public.
2020-6%
2021-6% (12.4% compounded)
2022-6% (19.1% compounded)
2023-18% (40.5% compounded)
But this rumor is so weak on details who knows what they are really saying. I’m going to wait for NC to actually negotiate for us before jumping to conclusions and negotiating in public.
I believe that is 6% in each of the past three years for retro purposes, therefore being a total of 18% ish date of signing.
11-08-2022 | 06:42 PM
#135
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BTW reviewing the rumor I see it as 18% retro/5%/5%/5%. It could be this:
RETRO
2020 - 6%
2021 - 6% (compounded 12.4%)
2022 - 6% (compounded 19.1%)
———-
2023 - 5% (compounded 25%)
2024 - 5% (compounded 31.3%)
2025 - 5% (compounded 37.9%)
It could also be
RETRO
2020 - 5.7%
2021 - 5.7% (compounded 11.7 %)
2022 - 5.7% (compounded 18%)
———-
2023 - 5% (compounded 24%)
2024 - 5% (compounded 30.2%)
2025 - 5% (compounded 36.7%)
The problem is (just like RES GS PB days), the details are super vague and incomplete, and a rumor. Resist impulsivity. Ask your rep for real info. Let the NC do their job.
11-08-2022 | 07:09 PM
#136
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Sorry wasn’t directed at you, rather the whole thread blowing up over some bullet points with no explanations.
BTW reviewing the rumor I see it as 18% retro/5%/5%/5%. It could be this:
RETRO
2020 - 6%
2021 - 6% (compounded 12.4%)
2022 - 6% (compounded 19.1%)
———-
2023 - 5% (compounded 25%)
2024 - 5% (compounded 31.3%)
2025 - 5% (compounded 37.9%)
It could also be
RETRO
2020 - 5.7%
2021 - 5.7% (compounded 11.7 %)
2022 - 5.7% (compounded 18%)
———-
2023 - 5% (compounded 24%)
2024 - 5% (compounded 30.2%)
2025 - 5% (compounded 36.7%)
The problem is (just like RES GS PB days), the details are super vague and incomplete, and a rumor. Resist impulsivity. Ask your rep for real info. Let the NC do their job.
BTW reviewing the rumor I see it as 18% retro/5%/5%/5%. It could be this:
RETRO
2020 - 6%
2021 - 6% (compounded 12.4%)
2022 - 6% (compounded 19.1%)
———-
2023 - 5% (compounded 25%)
2024 - 5% (compounded 31.3%)
2025 - 5% (compounded 37.9%)
It could also be
RETRO
2020 - 5.7%
2021 - 5.7% (compounded 11.7 %)
2022 - 5.7% (compounded 18%)
———-
2023 - 5% (compounded 24%)
2024 - 5% (compounded 30.2%)
2025 - 5% (compounded 36.7%)
The problem is (just like RES GS PB days), the details are super vague and incomplete, and a rumor. Resist impulsivity. Ask your rep for real info. Let the NC do their job.
11-08-2022 | 07:10 PM
#137
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Killing PB days is a lose/lose for both parties. The company won’t like what they buy - as if we would vote out PB days…
No way they would jump to a compounded 6/6/6/18/5/5.
TRIAL BALLOON. Shoot that crap down.
11-08-2022 | 07:56 PM
#138
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From: Scratching my head in the right seat of a Douglas product
Then you are utterly clueless as to what reserves will do. I can tell you I would never, ever GS again, and I always bid reserve. Work 17 days, up to ALV+15, and GS on your few days off? Easy/hard NO.
Killing PB days is a lose/lose for both parties. The company won’t like what they buy - as if we would vote out PB days…
Spot on, the company can easily solve this self induced problem if they want to.
My interpretation also. Which is basically an inflation neutral offer. Effing Eff that Effing BS.
No way they would jump to a compounded 6/6/6/18/5/5.
TRIAL BALLOON. Shoot that crap down.
Killing PB days is a lose/lose for both parties. The company won’t like what they buy - as if we would vote out PB days…
Spot on, the company can easily solve this self induced problem if they want to.
My interpretation also. Which is basically an inflation neutral offer. Effing Eff that Effing BS.
No way they would jump to a compounded 6/6/6/18/5/5.
TRIAL BALLOON. Shoot that crap down.
Also, I have a line up in the middle of your quote answering the first one.
11-08-2022 | 07:57 PM
#139
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You are correct. I had no idea the companies current position was half a billion dollars above the TA’s at American and United. It’s still below the 1.5 billion I would like to see.
11-08-2022 | 09:29 PM
#140
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Then you are utterly clueless as to what reserves will do. I can tell you I would never, ever GS again, and I always bid reserve. Work 17 days, up to ALV+15, and GS on your few days off? Easy/hard NO.
Killing PB days is a lose/lose for both parties. The company won’t like what they buy - as if we would vote out PB days…
My interpretation also. Which is basically an inflation neutral offer. Effing Eff that Effing BS.
No way they would jump to a compounded 6/6/6/18/5/5.
TRIAL BALLOON. Shoot that crap down.
Killing PB days is a lose/lose for both parties. The company won’t like what they buy - as if we would vote out PB days…
My interpretation also. Which is basically an inflation neutral offer. Effing Eff that Effing BS.
No way they would jump to a compounded 6/6/6/18/5/5.
TRIAL BALLOON. Shoot that crap down.
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