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#161
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“I want to come here, work and go home. We need more efficient trips.”
“We we need longer layovers. You can’t even drink a beer on these trips.”
“We need more block hours per day.”
“We need less block hours per day.”
“We need more five days, more than half this airline commute you know. If not for us you couldn’t keep these bases staffed.”
“Get rid of five days, you know more than half of us live in base. Tired of this airline bending over backwards for commuters.”
“Stop the downtown layovers. We need to be at a place we can grab something decent to eat and then sleep.”
“We need to be at the downtown layovers more, we need to be able to explore local restaurants and bars.”
#162
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Joined: Jun 2015
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When has the company given a crap about that (PWA FDP) I ACE'd it then fatigued out after my 10:35 rest at LAX that night.
10:35 rest at LAX isn't sufficient after a long ass 4 leg day, middle seat coach DH.
Got zero pushback on that call to the DP.
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10:35 rest at LAX isn't sufficient after a long ass 4 leg day, middle seat coach DH.
Got zero pushback on that call to the DP.
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#163
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From: Capt
”when any US originated flight departs the continental US, Hawaii or Alaska to a foreign country and vice versa, the minimum layover will be 25 hours”. Not rocket surgeon science.
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#165
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However, we have people calling in fatigued all over the place to make a point. Muddies the water.
#166
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#168
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#169
There are reasons that a layover in South America is 30 hours. It is because the airplane sits for 12 hours before returning to the US. That is not the case in Mexico.
#170
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That's fine, but my point is that if you don't account for it, those trips will turn into (essentially) turns.
There are reasons that a layover in South America is 30 hours. It is because the airplane sits for 12 hours before returning to the US. That is not the case in Mexico.
There are reasons that a layover in South America is 30 hours. It is because the airplane sits for 12 hours before returning to the US. That is not the case in Mexico.
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