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11-22-2022 | 01:49 PM
#181
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11-22-2022 | 01:50 PM
#182
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A regular would get paid single pay for the scheduled trip plus single pay for the part they flew.
Both could result in loss of pay. Neither justifies that captain’s actions.
11-22-2022 | 01:55 PM
#183
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[QUOTE=DisMyGamerTag;3536124]
Oh… okay… cool story
Btw, why would a pilot lose GS pay because the other pilot was replaced or you went from flying a leg to deadheading on the next flight? How does that cancel a GS anyways?
Also, do you seriously think some ”make a point” fatigue calls are not happening out here? Really?
”cool story”…well it really happened.
Capt was ATL based and picked it up as OOBGS…he drop into work for what was going to be a short flight ATL to JAX (I believe..it was somewhere in FL), shower overnight, then first flight back to ATL next day.
Flight was very late departure out of ATL and land after midnight.
FO lands from his LAX-ATL leg and calls in fatigued….flight cancels for lack of crew.
Can’t remember if Capt was REG or RES, but no rotation guarantee if RES.
Oh… okay… cool story
Btw, why would a pilot lose GS pay because the other pilot was replaced or you went from flying a leg to deadheading on the next flight? How does that cancel a GS anyways?
Also, do you seriously think some ”make a point” fatigue calls are not happening out here? Really?
Capt was ATL based and picked it up as OOBGS…he drop into work for what was going to be a short flight ATL to JAX (I believe..it was somewhere in FL), shower overnight, then first flight back to ATL next day.
Flight was very late departure out of ATL and land after midnight.
FO lands from his LAX-ATL leg and calls in fatigued….flight cancels for lack of crew.
Can’t remember if Capt was REG or RES, but no rotation guarantee if RES.
11-22-2022 | 02:06 PM
#184
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I haven’t flown with a single person who has needed to get off the trip badly enough to fake a fatigue call. I also haven’t felt the need to question another persons own assessment of their personal readiness. I also can’t go on micrew to perform discovery on whether fatigue calls were legitimate. Perhaps your experience isn’t the same as all other pilots.
I said it happened because it happened. And it is being encouraged somewhere in the ranks as a way to stick it to the sodomizer or just get time off. Or I guess both? I’m not on Facebook to see whatever infamous page they got going there. It’s mostly newer guys l, but not totally.
I mean when someone looks at me and says I am thinking of calling fatigued on day 3, what do you think? That’s a you thing, I don’t tell people not to call in fatigued. Id call in for them if I thought they were, or call in sick for them, but not the other way around.
11-22-2022 | 02:07 PM
#185
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From: DAL FO
[QUOTE=DWC CAP10 USAF;3536136]
”cool story”…well it really happened.
Capt was ATL based and picked it up as OOBGS…he drop into work for what was going to be a short flight ATL to JAX (I believe..it was somewhere in FL), shower overnight, then first flight back to ATL next day.
Flight was very late departure out of ATL and land after midnight.
FO lands from his LAX-ATL leg and calls in fatigued….flight cancels for lack of crew.
Can’t remember if Capt was REG or RES, but no rotation guarantee if RES.
Unrelated to Gameboy’s totally inappropriate judging of other pilots’ fatigue calls…this needs to be fixed.
I’ve been bitten by this 3 times over the years. Each time I was already to the airport, in uniform on an X day. It shouldn’t matter REG or RES, if a pilot volunteers to fly a GS they should be protected even if something else later screws up the rotation. 2 hours of suit up pay towards guarantee is unsat.
”cool story”…well it really happened.
Capt was ATL based and picked it up as OOBGS…he drop into work for what was going to be a short flight ATL to JAX (I believe..it was somewhere in FL), shower overnight, then first flight back to ATL next day.
Flight was very late departure out of ATL and land after midnight.
FO lands from his LAX-ATL leg and calls in fatigued….flight cancels for lack of crew.
Can’t remember if Capt was REG or RES, but no rotation guarantee if RES.
I’ve been bitten by this 3 times over the years. Each time I was already to the airport, in uniform on an X day. It shouldn’t matter REG or RES, if a pilot volunteers to fly a GS they should be protected even if something else later screws up the rotation. 2 hours of suit up pay towards guarantee is unsat.
11-22-2022 | 02:08 PM
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[QUOTE=DWC CAP10 USAF;3536136]
”cool story”…well it really happened.
Capt was ATL based and picked it up as OOBGS…he drop into work for what was going to be a short flight ATL to JAX (I believe..it was somewhere in FL), shower overnight, then first flight back to ATL next day.
Flight was very late departure out of ATL and land after midnight.
FO lands from his LAX-ATL leg and calls in fatigued….flight cancels for lack of crew.
Can’t remember if Capt was REG or RES, but no rotation guarantee if RES.
I wasn’t on a gs on the out of station one but it was cancelled and I got paid for my next leg deadhead home. Just double checked. And it was on reserve
”cool story”…well it really happened.
Capt was ATL based and picked it up as OOBGS…he drop into work for what was going to be a short flight ATL to JAX (I believe..it was somewhere in FL), shower overnight, then first flight back to ATL next day.
Flight was very late departure out of ATL and land after midnight.
FO lands from his LAX-ATL leg and calls in fatigued….flight cancels for lack of crew.
Can’t remember if Capt was REG or RES, but no rotation guarantee if RES.
11-22-2022 | 03:30 PM
#188
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No when asked for evidence, I said do you want me to go to MiCrew and get employee numbers, provide you with the flights, or any other data on the particular flights? What’s evidence does someone want on an anonymous website?
I said it happened because it happened. And it is being encouraged somewhere in the ranks as a way to stick it to the sodomizer or just get time off. Or I guess both? I’m not on Facebook to see whatever infamous page they got going there. It’s mostly newer guys l, but not totally.
I mean when someone looks at me and says I am thinking of calling fatigued on day 3, what do you think? That’s a you thing, I don’t tell people not to call in fatigued. Id call in for them if I thought they were, or call in sick for them, but not the other way around.
I said it happened because it happened. And it is being encouraged somewhere in the ranks as a way to stick it to the sodomizer or just get time off. Or I guess both? I’m not on Facebook to see whatever infamous page they got going there. It’s mostly newer guys l, but not totally.
I mean when someone looks at me and says I am thinking of calling fatigued on day 3, what do you think? That’s a you thing, I don’t tell people not to call in fatigued. Id call in for them if I thought they were, or call in sick for them, but not the other way around.
11-22-2022 | 05:55 PM
#189
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It’s mostly newer guys l, but not totally.
I mean when someone looks at me and says I am thinking of calling fatigued on day 3, what do you think? That’s a you thing, I don’t tell people not to call in fatigued. Id call in for them if I thought they were, or call in sick for them, but not the other way around.
I mean when someone looks at me and says I am thinking of calling fatigued on day 3, what do you think? That’s a you thing, I don’t tell people not to call in fatigued. Id call in for them if I thought they were, or call in sick for them, but not the other way around.
11-22-2022 | 07:38 PM
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No when asked for evidence, I said do you want me to go to MiCrew and get employee numbers, provide you with the flights, or any other data on the particular flights? What’s evidence does someone want on an anonymous website?
I said it happened because it happened. And it is being encouraged somewhere in the ranks as a way to stick it to the sodomizer or just get time off. Or I guess both? I’m not on Facebook to see whatever infamous page they got going there. It’s mostly newer guys l, but not totally.
I mean when someone looks at me and says I am thinking of calling fatigued on day 3, what do you think? That’s a you thing, I don’t tell people not to call in fatigued. Id call in for them if I thought they were, or call in sick for them, but not the other way around.
I said it happened because it happened. And it is being encouraged somewhere in the ranks as a way to stick it to the sodomizer or just get time off. Or I guess both? I’m not on Facebook to see whatever infamous page they got going there. It’s mostly newer guys l, but not totally.
I mean when someone looks at me and says I am thinking of calling fatigued on day 3, what do you think? That’s a you thing, I don’t tell people not to call in fatigued. Id call in for them if I thought they were, or call in sick for them, but not the other way around.
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