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11-14-2022, 08:09 AM

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boog123

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Originally Posted by Crown

Where are the automatic no voters? Aside from BB on Facebook

Next to the auto yes voters like JTA.

11-14-2022, 08:19 AM

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Gone Flying

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Originally Posted by DALFA

Please stop spreading mistruths. No matter how many times anyone repeats it...FAs didn't get 4/4/13. More like 4% in 2022 and boarding pay (6-8% for most people) but it also came along with additional time we have to work.

I hope you guys get everything and then some but don't make it seem like we got something we didn't.

what was the additional time?

11-14-2022, 08:20 AM

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Boatbuilder

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Originally Posted by JamesBond

Read that thing and tell me what real meat there is in it. There is nothing in there that they haven't been saying for months, except some vague statement about reaching an agreement about vacation. The rest is the same old same old.

Those five remaining sections can easily take MONTHS if not longer. I think it is even a disservice to state that a "full AIP could take place at an upcoming session". Any of you really buying that?

We will see nothing until well into spring if even then.

Was going to post an SNL Debbie Downer response to this, but somehow this seems more appropriate.

https://youtu.be/kMsrE-9CLFg

11-14-2022, 08:24 AM

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m3113n1a1

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Originally Posted by tennisguru

Question: won’t we need to vote and have the results of the global scope agreement before we can vote on any full TA? I can’t imagine anyone voting in a TA with an incomplete section 1, and I don’t think we’d want both votes to run concurrently.

This concerns me too. We don't want a new contract with the old section 1 just copy and pasted. I have a feeling they think we're desperate enough to just accept no changes to scope for a pay raise. Hopefully that's just the conspiracy theorist in me though.

11-14-2022, 08:25 AM

#25

Scooter432

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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1

The new scope agreement has comprehensive changes. It is worth the wait.

11-14-2022, 08:26 AM

#26

Gspeed

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Originally Posted by Wolf424

Good to see Vacation closed out…still scratching my head on DH. This is the sword the company wants to die on?

Re: Strike vote and moving the needle:

It’s honestly surprised me how many neighbors/friends/family have asked me about the strike vote.

I was at a kid’s birthday party recently, and 2 people asked me about it as soon as I arrived. Had a crowd of probably 8-10 listening to me explain why we voted, what it means, how our current contract was from 2016, etc. All were very concerned and asking if it could happen by Christmas. Told them anything is possible at this point, but the pilots are ready to take a stand for the contract we’ve earned and the feedback was positive.

Maybe the company is going to make the rest of the package sweet enough that we’ll agree to keep our current crap sandwich DH and meals language.