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Old 11-14-2022, 12:20 PM
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Positive news. Another big positive is all the "its possible we can strike by Xmas" silliness is put to bed.

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Old 11-14-2022, 12:22 PM
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Once again, it's important to not post mistruths. The IFS Q&A doesn't say an FA flying an average line equals to a 16% increase. It gives multiple examples of different flying scheduled and 1 of those examples equals 16% (the highest) and some examples show it being 4-5%. The only way you're getting that 16% scenario is if you're flying a DREAFUL schedule. We've had boarding pay for 6 months now and I have yet to see any FA be over 10%, which is actually lower since boarding pay doesn't apply to sick time, vacation, credit time, deadheads etc so the overall raise is even smaller. In each one of my previous 6 months which are made up of a mix of international and domestic 50/50 i'm just under 7%.

You also CHOOSE to IGNORE the fact that we are also working more time now with boarding pay. Each leg we work an additional 5 minutes. Which further lowers the "real" raise that boarding pay brings.

Also, the 4% received in 2019 is the same raised pilots ALSO received in 2019. Just because we received it a couple of months after doesn't mean it's an "additional" raise, it's just the timing of the raises and i've shown this when I posted historical dates of FA raises which change quite often.

Here's a screenshot of the Q&A you're referring to:
So to be even with the flight attendants we need one 4% raise and let’s call it 10% for boarding pay or just over 14%. I do find the 18% rumored number if the 1.38 billion number in total improvements mentioned by one of the MEC chair candidates plausible. Still even with 800 million for pay and 538 million in other sections we are massively bellowed what we opened for and planned to achieve in 2019.
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Originally Posted by DALFA View Post
We have to be onboard 5 extra minutes and have passengers onboard for 5 extra minutes. That’s extra work. That’s less personal time I have and more time I have to spend with passengers.

As far as your “phone” comments…blah…just shows a holier than thou attitude and entitlement some people have and isn’t really worth addressing.
What you say and what I see with my own eyes every day on the line don't line up - gate agents board when they board & I can see with my own eyes what FA's are doing pre-boarding. Your point is out of touch with audience you are talking to on here. If you don't want the pay you should talk to your Union and get that 5 minutes of your personal time back.
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Old 11-14-2022, 12:46 PM
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So to be even with the flight attendants we need one 4% raise and let’s call it 10% for boarding pay or just over 14%. I do find the 18% rumored number if the 1.38 billion number in total improvements mentioned by one of the MEC chair candidates plausible. Still even with 800 million for pay and 538 million in other sections we are massively bellowed what we opened for and planned to achieve in 2019.
Bellowing about our opener? Don’t you owe TED a beer now?
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Positive news. Another big positive is all the "its possible we can strike by Xmas" silliness is put to bed.

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Great news is March is Delta’s biggest month. Let’s hope management is ready to write a big check.
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Old 11-14-2022, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
So to be even with the flight attendants we need one 4% raise and let’s call it 10% for boarding pay or just over 14%. I do find the 18% rumored number if the 1.38 billion number in total improvements mentioned by one of the MEC chair candidates plausible. Still even with 800 million for pay and 538 million in other sections we are massively bellowed what we opened for and planned to achieve in 2019.
And to be clear, I hope you all end up with a TA that’s at least double those amounts. The more you get, the better the chance that some trickles down to us.
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
So to be even with the flight attendants we need one 4% raise and let’s call it 10% for boarding pay or just over 14%. I do find the 18% rumored number if the 1.38 billion number in total improvements mentioned by one of the MEC chair candidates plausible. Still even with 800 million for pay and 538 million in other sections we are massively bellowed what we opened for and planned to achieve in 2019.
You’ve already said you don’t know actual numbers. Please stop acting as if you do. You don’t agree with the way negotiations are being handled, that’s fine, but stop acting like you have inside knowledge to “prove” your way would be better.
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
So to be even with the flight attendants we need one 4% raise and let’s call it 10% for boarding pay or just over 14%. I do find the 18% rumored number if the 1.38 billion number in total improvements mentioned by one of the MEC chair candidates plausible. Still even with 800 million for pay and 538 million in other sections we are massively bellowed what we opened for and planned to achieve in 2019.
your schtick is getting very tiring
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Old 11-14-2022, 01:21 PM
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Bellowing about our opener? Don’t you owe TED a beer now?
I will be happy to take his bet. I don’t know how you prove where the rumor started but if he can show it’s a management trial ballon I will pay up. I suspect however it’s either a leak or made up by a pilot as I mentioned.
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your schtick is getting very tiring
Can you tell me what’s inaccurate?
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