Vacation AIP
11-15-2022 | 06:08 AM
#92
New Hire
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From: Concourse A
With IVDs, there is no reason you can’t carve out a sizeable summer vacation for yourself. I have been using my garbage vacation weeks and plopping them during the summer. Has worked great. They won’t get you holidays but my family summer vacations have not suffered. I hope IVDs stay codified or maybe even improved upon. They are great flexibility.
That said, I’m glad they are addressing the barren wasteland that is the summer vacation week availability.
That said, I’m glad they are addressing the barren wasteland that is the summer vacation week availability.
I'm looking forward to the details of the vacation aip.
11-15-2022 | 06:27 AM
#93
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One other thing that struck me from the NN:
“made significant progress on numerous secondary items in Section 3 – Compensation”
Could “boarding pay” be included? “Establish Door Pay” was in our opener... That would be a massive gain, as domestic rotations would effectively add nearly an hour’s pay to ADG.
“made significant progress on numerous secondary items in Section 3 – Compensation”
Could “boarding pay” be included? “Establish Door Pay” was in our opener... That would be a massive gain, as domestic rotations would effectively add nearly an hour’s pay to ADG.
11-15-2022 | 06:31 AM
#94
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Joined: May 2014
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From: Drivin’ the bus
The vacation AIP also said this, "Additionally, the rate at which Delta pilots accrue additional weeks of vacation accelerates...." and this, ".....and the distribution of vacation weeks throughout the year will improve - with particular emphasis on increased vacation weeks being made available for bid in summer months
When those on the junior side of the scale achieve additional longevity, they will also benefit from your quoted portion of the NN.
When those on the junior side of the scale achieve additional longevity, they will also benefit from your quoted portion of the NN.
They could add ONE additional week in summer months and it would be compliant with this AIP, yet still be essentially no change. Devil is in the details. Hopefully there are defined metrics in the final language forcing an even distribution throughout the year.
Regarding “value” of vacation, I think it’s important to have some definition around what constitutes “value.” Is it hours PAID per vacation day or hours “CREDIT” per day? I genuinely don’t know enough about how other carriers’ vacation credits work, it it would be nice to know how the calculations were made when comparing to ensure an apples to apples comp.
My opinion is that higher credit per day and more even annual distribution is higher priority to maximize vacation “value.”
11-15-2022 | 07:03 AM
#95
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Apr 2007
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From: Up front
They could add ONE additional week in summer months and it would be compliant with this AIP, yet still be essentially no change. Devil is in the details. Hopefully there are defined metrics in the final language forcing an even distribution throughout the year.
Regarding “value” of vacation, I think it’s important to have some definition around what constitutes “value.” Is it hours PAID per vacation day or hours “CREDIT” per day? I genuinely don’t know enough about how other carriers’ vacation credits work, it it would be nice to know how the calculations were made when comparing to ensure an apples to apples comp.
My opinion is that higher credit per day and more even annual distribution is higher priority to maximize vacation “value.”
Regarding “value” of vacation, I think it’s important to have some definition around what constitutes “value.” Is it hours PAID per vacation day or hours “CREDIT” per day? I genuinely don’t know enough about how other carriers’ vacation credits work, it it would be nice to know how the calculations were made when comparing to ensure an apples to apples comp.
My opinion is that higher credit per day and more even annual distribution is higher priority to maximize vacation “value.”
11-15-2022 | 07:18 AM
#96
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Feb 2008
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One other thing that struck me from the NN:
“made significant progress on numerous secondary items in Section 3 – Compensation”
Could “boarding pay” be included? “Establish Door Pay” was in our opener... That would be a massive gain, as domestic rotations would effectively add nearly an hour’s pay to ADG.
“made significant progress on numerous secondary items in Section 3 – Compensation”
Could “boarding pay” be included? “Establish Door Pay” was in our opener... That would be a massive gain, as domestic rotations would effectively add nearly an hour’s pay to ADG.
11-15-2022 | 07:29 AM
#97
Gets Weekends Off
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11-15-2022 | 09:06 AM
#99
seeing the country...
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From: 73N A
One other thing that struck me from the NN:
“made significant progress on numerous secondary items in Section 3 – Compensation”
Could “boarding pay” be included? “Establish Door Pay” was in our opener... That would be a massive gain, as domestic rotations would effectively add nearly an hour’s pay to ADG.
“made significant progress on numerous secondary items in Section 3 – Compensation”
Could “boarding pay” be included? “Establish Door Pay” was in our opener... That would be a massive gain, as domestic rotations would effectively add nearly an hour’s pay to ADG.
11-15-2022 | 09:28 AM
#100
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Joined: Mar 2015
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From: N60.4858 W149.9327
I heard we are expanding "leave when ready." Are you saying they would roll that back?
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