NH Noord is a 15 min walk to the free ferry over to downtown. Also a nice little area of shops and restaurants with nice park near the hotel. I never understood the problem with it?

 

since you’re plugged in with people “in the know,” what was the ask?

 

Yeah, I forgot you added that nugget to your contract. So, in affect, you have negotiated for your own benefits. Apologies.

 

TA2 passed with 82% IIRC. And most of those no voters are likely gone, so your 25% seems more like a variable, not the constant you are claiming. Not sure your analysis is very accurate.

 

Everyone seems to forget that back in 2019, inflation hadn’t happened yet and we had seen annual rates between 1.5-3% for decades. We were just coming off the heels of a 30% raise under TA2. Look at any of the comms put out leading up to the opener. Do you see any mention of pay whatsoever, other than the goal of being industry leading on every type of aircraft?

I’m told by a very reliable source that ALPAs pay opener back in 2019 was closer to 12/5/5. That’s quite a bit different than the narrative Sailing is trying to paint about 20/8/8 or whatever nonsense his flight ops buds want to use to justify their foot dragging in 2019.

I’m still waiting to hear if he believes the comprehensive gains in every section were worth doing, or if they also should have been scrapped in the name of expediency and TVM.

 

Because it’s a 15 minute walk to a ferry to get downtown, rather than staying downtown… I don’t know why we always stay in the burbs, especially when the contract stipulates otherwise. Zurich same deal.

 

What’s it like to be afraid of your shadow and order room service at all of your layovers? Just curious how this profession works for perma-doomsdayers.

 

As always, your numbers are significantly off. I'm not sure why you feel the need to come on here and blast away with incorrect data, but I highly suspect a narcissistic obsession to try and "prove" you were right, or connected, or the self-annoited voice of reason. Very "airline piloty" of you. Out of all of this, 25% DC and 260 hours (also incorrect) is what you are down to? Oh sorry, there's the 3 billion plus and 150 million (also wrong) one time payment. Never mind a completely egoistic flight ops leadership (replaced midstream) who didn't realize that despite full retro in C2015, they weren't supposed to stall negotiations. Never mind the single most (real or manufactured) devastating economic event ever, never mind the absence of concessionary bargaining during said time, never mind the usual complete lack of any support within the industry for pattern bargaining, never mind the simultaneous parallel global scope agreement (shoutout to the former ATL Chairman for forcing the hand) which benefits the Company exactly "zero" but finally secures wide body job protections with teeth without having to go through a very biased RLA grievance process. Never mind the sheer number of items (many of which are undoing the concessions of the past) achieved in this contract, and never mind having to navigate all of this this with a social media obsessed MEC (and one MEC chairman) - some of whom were bound and determined to scorch earth in any way possible to ensure a complete failure of anything and everything.

In the meantime, my thanks go out to the office staff, committee SMEs, NC and the eventual MEC Administration, who navigated all of this brilliantly and brought forth the single most lucrative airline contract ever - while the airline went through the gamut of historically profitable to historic losses to relatively profitable. It ain't perfect, and it ain't the opener (congrats sailingfun for your marvelous grasp of the obvious and inevitable) but it's really damn good.

 

For those who have seen these types of special payouts; I'm assuming the payout will be separate from our normal paycheck? If so, do we expect to have an election tool for Fidelity similar to our profit sharing election tool? Answer might be in the sky hub today...but I'm on the road.

Thanks
BC

 

Yes to the separate payment. Don’t remember if we had a special election tool or not.