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Old 06-07-2024 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Podrick
Its a major US city, theres gonna be a homeless person or two, just dont go to the tenderloin. Its a beautiful city, perfect weather year round, tons of stuff to do. I swear some people see one homeless person and think their life is in danger.

Or just bid avoid it and save some for the rest of us. Just don't be that guy that talks crap about the city in front of the van driver or the SFO based flight attendants.
Many of them know they live in a crappy city. There is no obligation to pretend fantasy is reality. Ask what areas they avoid and maybe they will share the live feed of the poop map to help navigate the layover.

Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
My favorite most cringey thing is when commuters try to tell people who live in NYC, LAX, or SFO how dangerous and horrible their city/state is because they somehow know better than the actual people who live there from what they've seem on tv or read on some alarmist website.
Engage the locals and ask their opinion. There is a tactful way to approach the topic without openly criticizing their choice(or circumstance) of residence. I heard plenty of criticism about my hometown from outsiders and thought it was unwarranted until living in other areas. Maybe share the positives in other cities and ask what is good about NYC/LAX/OAK/PDX etc... Living in a place can make you blind to reality.
Old 06-07-2024 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
That's just a fact of life now. Almost every overnight we have in the US had a homeless problem. It's not unique to the west coast.
Let’s not draw false equivalencies. There is a spectrum and some cities are worse than others, even if the problem itself is ubiquitous. SFO is particularly bad and it’s not wrong to state this.
Old 06-07-2024 | 10:27 AM
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You’re a [mod edit].


Mods. Please take this down. He changed my post and made its under quotes.
Mods. I don’t have a sense of humor, please help!!

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Old 06-07-2024 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
Many of them know they live in a crappy city. There is no obligation to pretend fantasy is reality. Ask what areas they avoid and maybe they will share the live feed of the poop map to help navigate the layover.



Engage the locals and ask their opinion. There is a tactful way to approach the topic without openly criticizing their choice(or circumstance) of residence. I heard plenty of criticism about my hometown from outsiders and thought it was unwarranted until living in other areas. Maybe share the positives in other cities and ask what is good about NYC/LAX/OAK/PDX etc... Living in a place can make you blind to reality.
There’s a very large difference between asking questions or recommendations versus being rude and an ass. It shouldn’t be that hard to be polite to your coworkers.

Not directed at you either, I just don’t understand making excuses for the behavior.
Old 06-07-2024 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Podrick
There’s a very large difference between asking questions or recommendations versus being rude and an ass. It shouldn’t be that hard to be polite to your coworkers.

Not directed at you either, I just don’t understand making excuses for the behavior.
I've flown to SFO with new hire FOs a few times recently on their first ever SFO layover and en route they tell me how all their captains have told them what a terrible ****hole the city is and how it's overran with homeless people. And I'm like ehh it's really not that bad dude. Then in the van driving through SF they point out every homeless person with glee saying "wow so many homeless!!" "What a liberal ****hole!"

It's really embarrassing.
Old 06-07-2024 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
I've flown to SFO with new hire FOs a few times recently on their first ever SFO layover and en route they tell me how all their captains have told them what a terrible ****hole the city is and how it's overran with homeless people. And I'm like ehh it's really not that bad dude. Then in the van driving through SF they point out every homeless person with glee saying "wow so many homeless!!" "What a liberal ****hole!"

It's really embarrassing.
I’ve had the same thing with some captains, and then it turns out they never even left the hotel the entire 24 hour layover..

Add to that I commute from a city that’s been the Fox News flavor of the month lately.. nothing like just meeting a crew member for the first time and they immediately talk down about my own home. It’s rude and lacks social skills or awareness.
Old 06-07-2024 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
I've flown to SFO with new hire FOs a few times recently on their first ever SFO layover and en route they tell me how all their captains have told them what a terrible ****hole the city is and how it's overran with homeless people. And I'm like ehh it's really not that bad dude. Then in the van driving through SF they point out every homeless person with glee saying "wow so many homeless!!" "What a liberal ****hole!"

It's really embarrassing.
But, are they wrong?
Old 06-07-2024 | 11:23 AM
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But, are they wrong?
I like the SFO overnight. So much good Asian cuisine. I eat at a new place every time I go and it’s always excellent.
Old 06-07-2024 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by CRJphlyer
I like the SFO overnight. So much good Asian cuisine. I eat at a new place every time I go and it’s always excellent.
Ditto

The food in SF is hard to beat
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Originally Posted by CRJphlyer
I like the SFO overnight. So much good Asian cuisine. I eat at a new place every time I go and it’s always excellent.
Agreed. Owl bar up the street for a drink is pretty cool too.

BTW, I would rather layover in downtown SFO than LAX. My last layover in LAX was the only time I was nervous venturing out more than a block or two from the hotel at night. I was shocked by the number of homeless, and I do quite a bit of west coast flying.
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