Average Monthly Credit Hours
12-17-2023, 02:52 PM
#11
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Less than 70 most months, though the new PWA adds a bit of soft pay. I'm a commuter and bid min credit with specific trips, a few of which I usually get. It seems like in these threads a lot of higher credit responses come up. I meet plently of people who say "I just fly my schedule and don't pick up GS". Some responders here are averaging much higher. When I talk to people about monthly credit and compare them to myself, it seems as though they're doing things that I don't want to have to do, despite the ease with which they claim to achieve such credit. I think people's perception of workload, acceptable time away from home, etc. varies a lot and is more personal. I'm not sure I could handle crediting much more without a lot of stress.
12-17-2023, 03:13 PM
#12
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Joined APC: Nov 2017
Position: NYC 7ERA
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Averaged out over 2023, 105-110 hours of pay per month working 11-12 days a month.
That was with being out 3 months for battling the FAA on my medical (FAA leave, plus sick so 3 months of straight ALV)
Work smarter, not harder.
Doing this at 82% in a poorly manned category (NYC 320A)
Forgot to add, NYC 320A is 320 Captain, which flies 319, 320, 321, 321 NEO
Also with Delta, there is a Pay vs Credit thing.. I figured what you were asking for was along the lines of how much pay for how many hours is showing up in your account.
As a RES guy who works the system, I'm over $1,000 an hour per hour flown with premium pay, holiday pay, obscure contractural FUPM pay, etc.
That was with being out 3 months for battling the FAA on my medical (FAA leave, plus sick so 3 months of straight ALV)
Work smarter, not harder.
Doing this at 82% in a poorly manned category (NYC 320A)
Forgot to add, NYC 320A is 320 Captain, which flies 319, 320, 321, 321 NEO
Also with Delta, there is a Pay vs Credit thing.. I figured what you were asking for was along the lines of how much pay for how many hours is showing up in your account.
As a RES guy who works the system, I'm over $1,000 an hour per hour flown with premium pay, holiday pay, obscure contractural FUPM pay, etc.
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12-17-2023, 03:33 PM
#14
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Originally Posted by LUVGuppy
Would someone be willing to post your average monthly credit hours and the fleet you are on for comparison purposes? Preferably 737, a320 and 757? Thanks in advance!
12-17-2023, 03:48 PM
#15
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
One other thing to note, at DL, "Green Slips" are premium pay trips. A regular line holder gets 2x pay for a GS, but has to meet a "trigger", which is not less than 67 hours of credit per month before it will pay double (and the trigger could be higher). In effect, unless you have vacation in that month, you have to work a full schedule before you get the 2x pay. However, on Reserve, a GS pays 1x on top of the Reserve Guarantee (between 72-80 hours of pay) if done on your days off. But critically, you get "payback days" where you get those off days "back". IOW, you are not working "extra" to get the premium pay on reserve. My understanding is that at SWA, that is not currently the case.
12-17-2023, 03:57 PM
#16
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Originally Posted by Valar Morghulis
Until silver slips show up. No trigger for those.
That is one of the incentives to upgrade. Senior FOs rolling thunder on RES or banking WB PB days will find the trough a bit empty. When you upgrade, every trip is a "silver slip".
Are SS in straight seniority for every trip or are they sequenced like GS?
12-17-2023, 04:10 PM
#17
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
That is one of the incentives to upgrade. Senior FOs rolling thunder on RES or banking WB PB days will find the trough a bit empty. When you upgrade, every trip is a "silver slip".
Are SS in straight seniority for every trip or are they sequenced like GS?
That is one of the incentives to upgrade. Senior FOs rolling thunder on RES or banking WB PB days will find the trough a bit empty. When you upgrade, every trip is a "silver slip".
Are SS in straight seniority for every trip or are they sequenced like GS?
12-17-2023, 05:04 PM
#18
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
That is one of the incentives to upgrade. Senior FOs rolling thunder on RES or banking WB PB days will find the trough a bit empty. When you upgrade, every trip is a "silver slip".
Are SS in straight seniority for every trip or are they sequenced like GS?
That is one of the incentives to upgrade. Senior FOs rolling thunder on RES or banking WB PB days will find the trough a bit empty. When you upgrade, every trip is a "silver slip".
Are SS in straight seniority for every trip or are they sequenced like GS?
Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad
I remember reading that it’s a normal PCS run with no leveling mechanism. After the soak period to get designated as one. Not near the iPad right now.
12-17-2023, 05:12 PM
#19
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Position: NYC 7ERA
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
Yeah, I definitly don't mean any of that as a complaint - just a snapshot for expectation management.
72 hours as a NB Capt is equivalent pay as ~106 as an FO, and 80 is more like ~118. You rationale was exactly the same reason I decided to take the upgrade. You'll love it, and never look back. Enjoy it.
72 hours as a NB Capt is equivalent pay as ~106 as an FO, and 80 is more like ~118. You rationale was exactly the same reason I decided to take the upgrade. You'll love it, and never look back. Enjoy it.
Pay alone $455k with one check to go in 2023. As a 6 year NB Captain who works 11 days a month averaged out over the year. Granted 60k or so was retro/signing bonus and 15k or so was PS.
But $380 just from flight pay alone. Without working hard. I worked 15 days once all year. In a 160 hour month.
12-17-2023, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
That is one of the incentives to upgrade. Senior FOs rolling thunder on RES or banking WB PB days will find the trough a bit empty. When you upgrade, every trip is a "silver slip".
Are SS in straight seniority for every trip or are they sequenced like GS?
That is one of the incentives to upgrade. Senior FOs rolling thunder on RES or banking WB PB days will find the trough a bit empty. When you upgrade, every trip is a "silver slip".
Are SS in straight seniority for every trip or are they sequenced like GS?
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